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Old 20 January 2007, 20:25   #11
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aidan, I wish you would learn to leave in (or put back in after deleting text) the [/quote] "tag" at the end of the message you are quoting - its bloody hard work after two bottles of wine working out which bits you wrote and which bits are the original message.
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Old 21 January 2007, 08:41   #12
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aidan, I wish you would learn to leave in (or put back in after deleting text) the
"tag" at the end of the message you are quoting - its bloody hard work after two bottles of wine working out which bits you wrote and which bits are the original message. [/QUOTE]

WIll do Polwart, mind you it took some time even figuring out your request, I am in learn mode with most of this... I just was trying to refer to some of thread but on reflection, I will do my best......
Meanwhile, who or where do you get the little smiling faces etc...
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Old 21 January 2007, 09:57   #13
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Meanwhile, who or where do you get the little smiling faces etc...
You have to buy them from JK.
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Old 21 January 2007, 10:17   #14
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Thanks PT, will investigate, going to movies now!!
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Old 21 January 2007, 11:57   #15
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I think you should write to MD of Yamaha Europe advising that we are all waiting on he outcome here on he forum??????
This all happened over here in the Colonies Aidan, but I do have a pretty thick file from Yamaha Canada. Their responses baffled even the dealer (who, I should point out, was very helpful. The first powerhead that blew, he sold to me at his cost, and installed it for nothing as it was about 45 days past the warranty expiration).

Yamaha sent a factory mechanic in to examine the first one, and pronounced that the cylinder that failed had corrosion inside: "probable cause was failure to winterize properly, causing condensation". Ummm, doubt it... done by a different dealer, receipt provided. Yamaha's response to this was to ask if I had "retorqued the head bolts during break-in". WTF? Dealer new nothing of that. Nothing in the owners manual. Nothing in the service manual. Apparently, there was a "directive" issued somewhere along the way.

When the second one went, the mechanic (a Merc dealer) felt that the probable cause was a sticky check valve in the oil-injection line which either reduced oil flow or possible drained when the engine was off, causing a delay in lubrication to begin each time I started. Since this was a replacement head, it had come with a 30 day warranty (!) and so I didn't waste the effort talking to Yamaha.

I will say again, that otherwise the engine ran beautifully right up until the point(s) that went "bang/clang/stop"...!
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Old 21 January 2007, 22:26   #16
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Stoo, checkout the Boat trader. If you pick up a copy of the Florida boat trader they usually have some new old stock outboards at good prices, sales volume in Florida and all that. You should be able to get a crated motor shipped to you for a reasonable amount. A link to look at, fun to look even if you are not in the market... http://www.boattraderonline.com/engpartsearch.html
I won't recommend a motor for you, I have had good luck with Yamaha but you haven't, Mercury or Yamaha for parts or service supposedly...
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Old 21 January 2007, 23:07   #17
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this looks pretty good..
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/86493738.htm
If you stay with a Yamaha outboard you could use your prop and controls, one advantage of keeping the same brand anyhow.
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Ok Stoo, now that you seem to have gone the extra mile, and you understand all the crap you ned to including Retorquing down the head. This is always done in the first service by the dealer. It is not really necessary but can blow the head gasket (never heard of it happening, ever!) and the dealer should have done it.
Regardless, there must be an engineering shop that you can trust to redo the lot for you. I feel it owes you a few years of good service.

Otherwise do not buy another Yamaha, you owe it to yourself.
So if on budget, go Yam if going new, You have to look at the ETEC (no valves and all that crap)

I had a SAAB which was brilliant but I blew the engine man system outside waranty. I decided to get it done and to get my money back, I kept the car an extra year which was trouble free and I ended up with fond memories.
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I had a SAAB which was brilliant but I blew the engine man system outside waranty. I decided to get it done and to get my money back, I kept the car an extra year which was trouble free and I ended up with fond memories.
How do you blow a SAAB up in Ireland ? Prey tell.
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Old 23 January 2007, 09:12   #20
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Hey Stoo, here's one for you, a brand new 1999 150 hp Merc some dealer in Michigan has, not too far from you http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/4/86973444.htm
$6000 for a new buck fifty, not bad if you don't mind that it is a 99.
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