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Old 11 October 2004, 07:12   #11
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Have been travelling arround the World on buisiness for the last 20 years.
I have to say that in the UK certain things i.e. PCs, electronics, cars, moto bikes, boats, housing -rent or bought- and taxis too also food, wine, beer, sigs - although should be charged at 100 each for the damage they do - and quite a large number of other consumer goods are 2 and some time 3 and 4 times more expenssive than in other EU states or the US or SAfrica or Australia or even Japan.
IMHO, this has nothing to do with the exchange rate or so much with the gread of some/all of the re-sellers/producers here.
High prices have to do with high labour costs i.e. a secretary earning 800-1,000/month net is unheard off in many of the EU state and also in the US, and high direct or indirect taxes (the highest I think in Europe).
An example: I went to buy SIKAFLEX in a shop down the road from here. Found it at 8.90. The same tube if I bought it in Greece made by the same company SIKAFLEX would have cost me between Euro 5.00-6.50!!
Any way, these two variables that I mentioned above (there are many more) but IMHO these two labour costs and taxes both direct and indirect are quite important in determining the prices of consumer goods and private services since the higher they are set the more expenssive consumer goods and private services become. Certainly this is the case in the UK.
The UK (in a survey done by Herald Tribune or EUROPE TODAY news paper some time ago was found to be the MOST expenssive country in Europe).
May be some of the blame should be directed to some of the various (not all) re-sellers and producers in the UK been gready but the larger part of the blame should be directed to the State. Always IMHO.
Now the counter argument is with high taxation you can have good (the best IMHO) state health care, good public services, good schools and higher education and many other services provided by the state.
The bottom line here is what one really wants.
Now I buy all of the electronics I need and other otems for our boats from the US I pay the tax and vat (claim that back as a business any way) and I'm happy. It takes a bit longer to get them but it worths the wait.
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Old 11 October 2004, 09:48   #12
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Manos,

Sorry to see your blobs got burst! Its got to be the USA for the kit we need so will see how it can be done minimising any duty payable.
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Manos how the hell can you say electronics - pcs etc are more expensive in the UK???

I challenge you to go to a British website and look at prices for say hdd or cpus etc - then go to a yank site and see for yourself it is NOT dearer in the UK.

http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/comp...quicklinx=259Y

DiamondMax Plus9 120GB UDMA133
47.98 inc VAT (40.84 ex VAT)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...tegory_hdd.asp

Same hdd in US $89 which is 49.54 - dearer than the UK with or without VAT!!!

A DVD player for 30 or less - eletric drill a fiver - do they GIVE them away elsewhere???

Have you any idea how small a margin there is on computer an electronic stuff??? I have been buying pc components for years - I shop around all over the world - take into account exchange rates etc and Britain has cheaper prices than most places.

Tried to do some electrical shopping in France - Spain - Andorra etc - FAR more expensive than the UK - seriously - my Ipaq was 150 dearer than it would have been in the UK.

Resturants even in little villages etc were just as expenive - or worse than the uk.

Property prices are NOTHING to go by - USA is cheap cos there is plenty of space - smaller the country - higher the population - more expensive the property - simple!!!

Now when it comes to things that are taxed by Blair and his mob it's a different story - Britain HAS prob the worlds most expensive petrol - 20p p[er litre on the spot market - even now with the high oil price - what do we pay - 82p per litre - thats 62p per litre TAX - that's what I call a rip off!!!
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Why do people go on about Rip off Britain all the time? It is ONLY really true of things taxed like cigs or petrol etc
So how do you explain the price differential on new shotguns, for example? Beretta 391 semi-automatic in the States - $800. New price in UK - 850!!??
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......several items in the U.K. (toys for the new R.I.B) and then compared them to the prices in on www.westmarine.com only to find a 30% saving which included the cost of ($28) postage. As I'm in the States next week I'll be filling my bags whilst there - if anyone wants anything, feel free to let me know.
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Codprawn,

Its electronic kit that I was looking at if it's so cheap worldwide how do we see different prices? I looked the German ebay site it appeared to offer similar navigational kit at markedly different price. I'll check again to see if it has changed.

I must confess to be astounded by the plummetting power tool prices and a rise in percieved quality. Own brand lines have upped the anti on quality whilst the price has gone down, no complaints here.

This does lead one to wonder how much the Worldwide brands are landing them for here when made abroad. Maybe China will start banging out "Defender" type "Landrover" lookalikes for about a tenth of the cost this I could live with!
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Bullshitting Scouse salesman's talk if ever I heard it! Right Graeme, and I'm dead serious here, I'll have aforementioned Beretta in Max4 HD camo with 26" barrel please. You can bring it over as a gift, that'll save even more And don't worry about the barrel length, they dismantle easily enough. C.O.D OK?
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Maybe China will start banging out "Defender" type "Landrover" lookalikes for about a tenth of the cost this I could live with!
They do, but they're a tenth of the size, too, and are badged as Corgi.
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So how do you explain the price differential on new shotguns, for example? Beretta 391 semi-automatic in the States - $800. New price in UK - 850!!??
Could it be because it is left hand drive
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