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Old 16 October 2008, 18:45   #11
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Martini - not denying the value. I just notice people here make comments along the lines you did and sometimes think they have forgotten not everyone is ribbing on the same budget. especially if its a newcomer who is probably also about to fork out 100 quid on lifejackets, 50 quid on flares etc...

I agree though that there is a difficult decision if you can only afford one radio do you go for fixed or hand held kept on your person. I adopted precisely the approach you suggested but Santa didn't read my list!
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Old 16 October 2008, 20:07   #12
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You can pick up an H/H for 70 these days, about the same price as a basic lifejacket. If your MOB on your own its money well spent. Not to mention its other uses eg back-up to your fixed unit, communicating to your shore party etc. If your really strapped for cash then buy the H/H and the put the fixed on your xmas list
I agree - as I am often out on my own, after a lifejacket I think the handheld would be the next most important thing if I was on a budget, appreciate that not all parts of the world are the same but I would choose a handheld over a flare pack for down here... mine lives permanently clipped onto the lifejacket in case I go over the side because there's a good chance nobody will be around to see it and if its a breezy day the boat is likely to bugger off without me even if the killcord does work!
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Old 17 October 2008, 03:00   #13
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Not to mention its other uses eg ............communicating to your shore party etc.
But not while they're ashore, of course
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Old 17 October 2008, 03:49   #14
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To bring the range into line with Icom, Standard Horizon now also have a floating unit. We feel it has significant benefits over the Icom - mainly that it floats face up, with a fair proportion of the Radio visible, boosting your chances of finding it!

You can view more details on this VHF at http://www.standardhorizon.co.uk/pro...ucts_id=100004, and I can supply these radios for 129.99, excluding delivery.
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Old 17 October 2008, 03:52   #15
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No doubt a great VHF but so is tha HX270e - and it's a lot cheaper!!!
The M71 units are closer in spec to the HX-500 (http://www.standardhorizon.co.uk/pro...roducts_id=926) from Standard Horizon, although it's largely the presence of a Mic/Speaker socket that makes the difference.

As you say, cheaper though, the HX-270's are available for 90, the HX-500's for 125.
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Not sure how much difference you will see in range from a handheld compared to a fixed unless you can get an ariel high up.
5W for a handheld vs 25W for a fixed unit? Substantial difference, IMO, though they'll still both be line of sight.

Still, as an emergency unit, I can't say to pass on the handheld.

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The only snag with the floating units is that they tend to be bulkier than the normal ones so harder to fit in to a pocket.
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The only snag with the floating units is that they tend to be bulkier than the normal ones so harder to fit in to a pocket.
This is true. I tend to keep mine clipped to my lifejacket belt, with a waterproof speaker mic attached so that I don't keep clipping and unclipping the radio unit itself - experience tells me that's how most are lost overboard!
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I think it will be my only option until I get an Aframe fitted.
Was looking at one of these Icom IC M71
I'm using one of those, with an external mic (mic kindly donated by another Ribnetter ). I keep it in a pocket with the mic secured by a scuba reg retainer. The extra bit of transmitting power has to be a good thing. It's had a season on the water and been wet, banged about etc. Seems to be good kit, chunky and solid.
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5W for a handheld vs 25W for a fixed unit? Substantial difference, IMO, though they'll still both be line of sight.
But you're last point is rather important. A handheld at head height is pretty much at the same height as a fixed unit if the ariel is mounted on the console. Height is much more important than power. 5W should be enough for the sort of range that someone (especially someone new) would take a 4m rib off the coast. If there is a problem communicating I would suggest it is more likely to be a line of sight issue e.g. round a headland, than pure power.
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