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28 March 2010, 07:55
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Yamaha wiring ?
Hi,
I have recently purchased a mid 80's 28hp Yamaha 2 stroke outboard. It is electric and manual start, but has a few wiring problems.
It has a loom with a home made 'ignition key' consisting of just a 2 piece plug which is pushed together to engage the starter.
Although it starts easily, I have no way of stopping it !
Is there anyone who can tell me which wires go where as I need to add a new ignition ?
Also, which wires are needed to add a remote stop on lanyard please?
Thanks to all.
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28 March 2010, 08:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redxpuser
Hi,
I have recently purchased a mid 80's 28hp Yamaha 2 stroke outboard. It is electric and manual start, but has a few wiring problems.
It has a loom with a home made 'ignition key' consisting of just a 2 piece plug which is pushed together to engage the starter.
Although it starts easily, I have no way of stopping it !
Is there anyone who can tell me which wires go where as I need to add a new ignition ?
Also, which wires are needed to add a remote stop on lanyard please?
Thanks to all.
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White and black (earth). Join the 2 to stop the engine. Works for stopping it on the killcord as well as the ignition.
How many ignition coils does it have? Is it one with 2 outputs or 2 separate ones? Once I know which engine it is, I'll post a wiring diagramme for it. No point in giving you the wrong one.
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28 March 2010, 08:29
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This might be of some use:
Or you can get many Yamaha manuals to (view only) at the Yamaha US site.
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28 March 2010, 08:37
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Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
This might be of some use:
Or you can get many Yamaha manuals to (view only) at the Yamaha US site.
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I think that's a fourstroke diagramme 
Oil pressure switch is a giveaway.
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28 March 2010, 08:40
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Re: Yam Wiring
Thanks Nos,
Here's a picture of the engine which should help you with ID.
Can you see the two wires (red and black) that have been twisted together - any idea what these are for ?
Thanks,
Andy
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28 March 2010, 08:46
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Re: Yamaha wiring
One other thing, while trying to stop the engine, I accidently pulled the lower of the two HT leads off, and managed to break the lead - is it an easy fix ?
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28 March 2010, 08:55
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Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
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Are you 100% sure that's a black and not a filthy yellow with tape on? It definitely shouldn't have a red twisted to it if it's a black.
Diagramme is attached.
Ignition switch should be wired as per the 2nd diagramme.
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28 March 2010, 08:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redxpuser
is it an easy fix ?
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Depends where you've broken it. Is it that the cap's come off? Looks like it in the pic. If so, just buy a new cap from a bike shop and screw it on.
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28 March 2010, 09:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
I think that's a fourstroke diagramme 
Oil pressure switch is a giveaway.
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Yes - but the control box end of things (ignition, stop, kill etc) is the same across all the Yamahas. Not sure how far back in time that goes or if they've changed the colours at any point. I read it that he already had the wiring loom in place - just nothing connected at the control box end? However I hadn't seen your earlier post.
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One other thing, while trying to stop the engine, I accidently pulled the lower of the two HT leads off, and managed to break the lead - is it an easy fix ?
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I doubt it. Even if you can bodge together a repair - I would be woried about it would fail randomly whilst at sea.
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28 March 2010, 09:02
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Thanks again Nos - will try and sort it out today, have to find a suitable ignition switch first.
Thanks, Andy
p.s. Finally moved away from playing with the Mercury Blue/red bands, hope this motor will give me less grief !
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