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Old 15 October 2006, 16:07   #1
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Yamaha Diesel Sterndrive units.

Help, can anyone pour some knowledge on the following statements from Yamaha at the Boat Show. Inboard "Yamaha Diesel engines and stern drives are for leisure use only". The following statement was also made, "No commercial warranties will be given with these units". This sounds very disturbing as it appears they Yamaha have lost confidence in their product? Is it possible that the new range of these engines and drive units have been pushed beyond their tolerances? What about all the commercial operators running these new units? Yamaha positively issued warrantees for both commercial and private use in the past. Gleaned from the conversation with yamaha was that their units were ok for leisure use only, that being approx, two weekends per month. What a load of rubbish! Anyone with any info regarding this information or even the relevant info for the warrantee periods and servicing schedules please come forward, it will be most enlightening. I am shocked that this news, if true, was not made public in any of our Mag's! I would invite Red Bay Marine, Ireland, to come forward as the (I am told) largest supplier and installer of these units in Europe, and furnish us all with the relevant information?
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Old 15 October 2006, 21:28   #2
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I am a Redbay user and a big Yamaha fan albeit a Yammie outboard. From what I have experienced within the Redbay community there is a high level of satisfaction with the Yanaha outdrives and Redbay arriving at the position of being the biggest installer of them reflects this satisfaction.

It is well known that Redbay build exceptionally strong boats for the tough environments of the North Atlantic and Scottish coasts. A great number of these boats are used commercially and Redbays ongoing commitment to the Yamaha drives is, I believe, a reflection of their level of satisfaction. The Redbay range of craft are exceptional sea boats and knowing the individuals involved they settle for nothing but the best.

I do know that Redbay have supplied other drives over the years and have not had the same level of reliability from the other manafacturers.

Whether Yamaha warrant the drives is, in my opinion, a corporate issue within Yamaha. I have, over the years, been on a number of Redbay events and it is a pleasure to see how some of the boats, with their Yamaha outdrives, are still performing even after years of service in a very harsh environment. It is also interesting, at these events, to see the Yamaha representatives present to first hand experience the customer experience. I am sure this interest in their clients along with the reliability of their products, could explain the high number of Redbay users who when upgrading their craft repeatedly specify Yamaha again and again.

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Old 15 October 2006, 22:38   #3
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Yamaha diesel engines and stern drives

To Rgds:
Sir or madam, Thank you for your response however I can only assume that you have completely misread my input . Perhaps I am mistaken? Are you the Managing Sales Director, or something close to that very important position for Red Bay Marine. Ok, I will most certainly buy the product you have just ranted on about, a boat from RED Bay when I can afford one!
Now to the correct point: Warrantees and guarantees from Yamaha regarding their diesels and stern drives for all of us, both private and commercial. Unlike you, I have had a vast amount of experience owning and running these units and the appropriate question was not regarding their previous quality which was and is I suspect, excellent? I simply asked if Red Bay could enlighten us all as to Yamaha's current rumblings regarding their sales back up (Warrantees etc). If you are not an employee of Red Bay Marine, then I salute you on your inexperienced loyalty surrounding these units and regarding this pertinant question. I apologise for mentioning Red Bay Marine, as it has obviously placed you in a strange and extremely defensive position. I'm sure there are other boat builders who supply and install these units who will help us all out, if Red Bay Marine do not.
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Old 16 October 2006, 11:29   #4
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Been sniffing too much diesel or something???
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Old 16 October 2006, 12:38   #5
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Interesting name you have for your boat. Do you have an SSR for it?
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Old 16 October 2006, 15:21   #6
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Interesting name you have for your boat. Do you have an SSR for it?
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Didn't notice that - his attitude was enough.......
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Old 16 October 2006, 18:41   #7
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I think you should maybe ask Yamaha rather than a boat builder. Only they can have the true answer.

We have had 2 redbays both with yamaha diesels and encountered very few problems. Thats probably why you wont find a redbay owner who are dissatisfied with thier boats.
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Old 16 October 2006, 20:07   #8
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Yamaha diesels and stern drives.

Allan P. Thank you. The answer is no.
codprawn. Thank you for your intelligent input.
Craig C. Thank you. I received this information at the Boat show on the Yamaha stand. I intended to get the relevant answers about the warrantees etc, from a large supplier/builder, at the coal face, as they say, or from the vast amount of knowledge in this forum! Again I say that there is no criticism of the product, or any supplier/builder, simply a normal question relating to the Yamaha warrantees and again I assume their new units? As I appear to have awakened some kind of defensive mechanism in relation to my simple question about warrantees and the general area I pointed those questions in. Then yes, I will most certainly take your kind advice and write to Yamaha endeavouring to get them to put the information I already gained verbally, into writing! Hopefully by highlighting this issue, if true, it will benifit someone. I am confident that this is the whole idea behind forums like this one.
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Old 16 October 2006, 20:26   #9
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Metal Mickey, diesel boat engines adhere to a classification system where the running time at maximum revs per 24 hour's use is stipulated and also the maximum revs for continuous running is stipulated.

The high output of many modern, relatively small cubic capacity, diesel engines puts large stresses on their components and so the rating of the Yamaha unit is very likely to be for leisure use.

For your info, my Volvo engine is classified for leisure use.

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Old 16 October 2006, 21:30   #10
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As per my initial posing:

"I am a Redbay user "

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