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13 December 2009, 19:15
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 764
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Yamaha 60 HP Remote Installation
Hi all,
Was wondering if any one out there has experience installing a 2 strokes, Yamaha 60 HP long shaft on a rib. Plan placing a central console NFS T-11 Telefelx system (Pic 1), at the end of the cable there's a metal shaft, been recommended to buy clevis kit (pic 2) or transom support kit (pic 3) that also includes the clevis kit as in pic 2.
1-The tramson support kit includes :Teleflex Outboard Clamp Block, Support Tube, and the Clevis Kit. Bolts to the inside of your transom and provides an anchoring point for the steering cable.
2-Does this model still uses the L link arm kit (pic 4) ? no more, uses the support tube ? (pic 3)
3-Which kit model will be needed to secure cable shaft to engine 2 or 3 ? Can someone supply proper pics to see transom/engine connecting details. Thanks in advance for any usefull visual tech information.
Happy Boating
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13 December 2009, 23:33
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
Hello Inflatable John
A big favor if possible, see you have a rib, need to install a Yamaha 60 HP engine on a 530 rib, would it be possible to post some pics of the hardware needed from remote steering cable shaft to engine. That is pics shot from seat towards transom, if close ups, the better. Do you need to use a transom cable holder ? Seems you are using one. Thanks
Happy Sibbing
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Loco, I have essentially the same rig as John (same engine different carbs) on a different hull. I rigged it myself - so it may not be correct - but the steering has been trouble free for 3+ years. My steering cable (its the type with a long plastic screw inside it) runs from the console to the transom, where the bar feeds through the tilt tube of the engine. The end of the extending bar it then connected via a L shaped rod (approx 1/2" diam, roughly 12" long? - like your photo 4) to the front of the engine. [This is all from memory so I may have details wrong]. The cable is however not supported anywhere else on the transom (only by the tilt tube). It may be good practice to do so - but my steering/engine were not supplied with any such supports or instructions.
I assume a 60HP would be the same.
I'm not sure when I'll next be down at the boat but I can get a photo if it help in a week or two.
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14 December 2009, 14:38
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,854
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Loco,
You shouldn't need any form of transom kit for a 60. Unless it's built pre about 1975, the engine end of the cable should go through the engine tilt tube (usually insert it from the starboard side to have the "business end " of the cable poking out to port), then screw the big nut on the cable to the starboard side of the engine onto the thread on the tilt tube, and job done.
You'll then need a "Pic4" link arm (or a variation on that with some more bends) to connect the end of the cable to the engine tiller arm. (not the "hand tiller -there will be abracket with a threaded hole just under the front of the cowl. It may even poke out a bit.
Those transom kits are usuallt sold for older engines where the tilt tube is solid, or rudders for inboard engines. I have a Johnson 25Hp (1972) that could not be connected the way I described above. - it was designed for wire rope steering!
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14 December 2009, 15:54
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Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 764
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Thanks Polwart & 9D280
The engine is a brand new 2009 model, will check engine kit to see included hardware. In a central console, the drive cable that comes from the stering wheel/console must pass sideways (right side) or under console & seat towards transom ? What cable slack engine/transom should be propper ? Has anyone used Teleflex Red Jacket that are far steering superior to standard cables ?
Happy Boating
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14 December 2009, 20:22
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
The engine is a brand new 2009 model, will check engine kit to see included hardware. In a central console, the drive cable that comes from the stering wheel/console must pass sideways (right side) or under console & seat towards transom ?
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I think that depends on what works for you with cables/trip hazards space for feet, jockey seat or bench seat etc.
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What cable slack engine/transom should be propper ?
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not sure what the you mean. I think the suggestion when I bought mine was an extra ft for the corners.
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14 December 2009, 21:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Scillies
Boat name: Freedom
Make: Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 2st 90
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 335
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When I redid the cable and engine on my 5.4 I needed a 14 foot cable.
Hope that helps give you an idea.
Ian
PS I don't have any of those additional bracing jobs you are looking at and it is turning the 90 I have without any probs.
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15 December 2009, 12:57
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,854
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Loco, where it comes out the console is, as Pol says, down to the shape of your boat. Mine comes out the rear Stbd corner at 45degrees, runs along under the toob & curls up round to the engine.
No need for a huge amount of slack, as the sheath (outside wall) of the cable is stationary, and fixed to the engine. the bit that moves runs inside.
Throttle / gear cables will need some slack, as they move Port - starboard with the engine.
If you don't have an underfloor duct for your cables, get some flexi trunking (One brand over here is called Copex, not sure about your local market brands) - then use cable ties to fix it to the steering cable & it keeps the whole lot as one neat "twin tube" run to the engine.
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15 December 2009, 15:16
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 764
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Thanks mates for the input, rib is a 4.30 metre, so a 14" engine and steering cables will fit nicely, hope so, fingers crossed.
Happy Boating
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15 December 2009, 16:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Scillies
Boat name: Freedom
Make: Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 2st 90
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 335
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I recon you'll probably be at least a foot long but it will give you more to play with to try different routes.
Ian
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16 December 2009, 08:13
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
Thanks mates for the input, rib is a 4.30 metre, so a 14" engine and steering cables will fit nicely, hope so, fingers crossed.
Happy Boating
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Why not just measure it? - Got to be better than guessing!!!!
(remember to take a nice curve up to the engine - they don't like 90 degree bends!)
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