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Old 01 November 2005, 05:19   #31
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ideally i want the boat to be nice and stable at speed and i am very happy to stick to 200 max, Mike warned me that the guys over in sweden and denmark are crazy guys and it is amazing what they do with their boats .
Ha ha, maybe little crazy but we are using the boats different from you.
In Stockholm for example we have 30,000 islands and not so much sea in the archipelago, during the summers we are using the boat as a car, quick transports from different places, the average Osprey in Stockholm are doing around 47-48 knots but there are a lot of faster boats than that, the fastet private use boat in Stockholm is doing 127 knots.
Its a Nortech 50 (Similiar to attached pic) it has like 4 X 950hp.
Thats crazy
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Old 01 November 2005, 05:28   #32
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Ha ha, maybe little crazy but we are using the boats different from you.
In Stockholm for example we have 30,000 islands and not so much sea in the archipelago, during the summers we are using the boat as a car, quick transports from different places, the average Osprey in Stockholm are doing around 47-48 knots but there are a lot of faster boats than that, the fastet private use boat in Stockholm is doing 127 knots.
Its a Nortech 50 (Similiar to attached pic) it has like 4 X 950hp.
Thats crazy
not sure what to say here, that is amazing and 4x950hp, well that must be one hell of a boat. I have been looking thru all the boats in your area and on the disk you sent me, they do look great and you guys sure know how to have a good time.

i will be happy with a tame vipermax 6.5, with a nice 200 on the back, which would you recommend?, opti or etec or fourstroke suz 175?
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Old 01 November 2005, 05:35   #33
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I would go for the 200 VMAX HPDI, nice looking engine, ok fueleconomy (not compare to 4-stroke) nice sound, good effect.
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Old 01 November 2005, 12:52   #34
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We have never regretted going for slightly more power than needed.

Speedwise (E tec 200 + VM 6.5 you are probably looking at 50+ knots (we are guestimating ) Perhaps nearer 53?

Variables include crew, rigging, prop, engine height, load, sea conditions, guts, hull state, etc. etc.

Have a chat with Lee at the boatshow as already recommended.

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the vmax comes in at a higher premium than i am prepared to pay, currently i am looking at opti 175/200, suz BF175 or etec 175/200

i know yams are nice i have one currently 15hp and had a 2hp in the past haha so can vouch for nice engines, oh and have an evinrude as well....4hp ha ha ....boy seems i have had some biguns!!!

optis are cheapest with bf and etec 175 in the middle and etec 200 most expensive with 1400 quid separating the opti 200 from etec 200

trouble is some engines are not out til next year so can test em till then and i want to get an order in soonish or by the boat show at the latest
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hmmmm

now i have my hull and getting ready to fit out the bits and pieces i need to make a decision on the engine. I have read a lot of subjective views and some objective views on the etec vs opti war, and in many reports in the usa the opti comes out slightly better although they are close, economy seems better with the opti. It seems that because mercury are pushing verado it is nice for etec to challenge verado, but as typically verado loses to the optimax on ecomony and speed stakes it is easy for etec to beat verado. so i suspect the etec and optimax are very closely matched.

some folks say the opti is old technology and etec is the way to go but have not seen any real evidence that the etec is better. i can get a 2005 opti 200 for around 800 less than a 200 etec (new 190kg model) and 500 quid cheaper than a suz 175.

i am interested in quiet but a nice healthy noise
interested in economy
interested in high cruising speed at reasonable economy
reliability

has anyone got any data they can throw in here for me to consider in my decision

my view is so far

probably cant go wrong with an opti proven technology
suz 175 will prob be quiet and relatively economical and reliable
opti will be cheaper
suz will be underpowered compared to 200 2 strokes but will i need that extra?
etec is quiet and should be reliable and economical but not proven
servicing will be cheaper on etec and winterising is good
which will have better appeal or resale....god only knows

i can afford all three but prefer to spend less

i like all three and want to test all three but cant as two arnt made yet

opti avail now
suz in feb march
etec in feb ish

any input anyone? am i missing something

i like black, blue ok, not so keen on silver mariner
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Opti. You'll just love the smell of 'em anyway. Then you'll be hooked.
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nice one, do they smell like the old two stroke bikes running on castrol R?
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Whoa there! Castrol R? Now THAT smells better than, er, sorry don't want a yellow one so I'll stay schtuum but 'R' smells like - RACIN'! Yeah....

Opti's have a kind of delicate perfumed eastern odour. Sort of vanilla meets musky Shanghai bordello. It's both memorable and unique.

Bugger, gonna fire mine up now and have a sniff.

I'm gone...
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