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15 March 2007, 12:47
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Forres
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Twin yamaha 90hp
Just got the chance of twin 90's what fuel consumption can I expect running about 20-25 knots with 8 divers? Boat 7.3m Northcraft, Don't need to go any faster just need to be able to get on the plane with reasonably ease
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15 March 2007, 13:43
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Ocean & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzi DT200EFI, DT9.9
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Alant
My honest opinion is that you are better off with the single 150HP.
You may get up on the plain slightly quicker but may even struggle to get 25knts with that set up and all that weight.
I believe the rule of thumb is twins give performance about equal to 70% of their joint power.
ie two 90s is @126HP
Somebody will probably shoot this down in flames though.
Nasher
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15 March 2007, 13:54
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Country: UK - Scotland
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It already has a 150 johnson on it. Looking at the atlantic 75 about the same weight does 32knots with 75's.
How do you rate your suzi know of a 99 200efi, does it have a fuel return line form the engine?
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15 March 2007, 14:07
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Ocean & Bombard
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Engine: Suzi DT200EFI, DT9.9
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Alant
The Suzi is in my opinion a great engine.
Its very light for a 200, and has a built in oil reservoir and fuel swirl pot.
So no fuel return line or seperate oil line/tank is required.
Codprawns 225 is a better, but more complicated version of the same engine with twin plugs etc.
My 6.5 Ocean is a heavily built boat with a sea-keeping hull rather than a fast hull. With the old Johnson 150VRO on it did around 30knots max using about 2.5 to 3l of fuel a mile.
The Suzi gives me a comfortable crusing speed of 25-30knts at just over half throttle, and with a very light load I've seen 52knts.
Depending on the sea state I get between 1.6 to 2l a mile out of it cruising, but as expected this goes up stupidly doing 40knts+, towing, or at displacement speeds. This is the area where I believe an Etec etc would beat it. Bear in mind however that they can be picked up in prime condition for @£2K
Nasher.
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15 March 2007, 16:06
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Is that 1.6-2 litres a mile or 1.6-2 miles a litre? presume the former.
Anyone anyother oppinion on the twin setup? I think it would give me more torque but 25 knots at wot to slow  would want that at about 3/4 throttle.
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15 March 2007, 17:30
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Town: N.Wales/Southampton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALANT
It already has a 150 johnson on it. Looking at the atlantic 75 about the same weight does 32knots with 75's.
How do you rate your suzi know of a 99 200efi, does it have a fuel return line form the engine?
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The atlantic 75 will do 35kts with twin 70 evinrudes
James
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15 March 2007, 17:47
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
The Suzi is in my opinion a great engine.
Its very light for a 200, and has a built in oil reservoir and fuel swirl pot.
So no fuel return line or seperate oil line/tank is required.
Codprawns 225 is a better, but more complicated version of the same engine with twin plugs etc.
Depending on the sea state I get between 1.6 to 2l a mile out of it cruising, but as expected this goes up stupidly doing 40knts+, towing, or at displacement speeds. This is the area where I believe an Etec etc would beat it. Bear in mind however that they can be picked up in prime condition for @£2K
Nasher.
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Couldn't agree more - I am SO pleased with my engine - as far as economy goes though my engine seems to give the same sort of figures as an etec or Suzuki 4 stroke etc. Maybe it's the twin spark that makes it more efficient?
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15 March 2007, 18:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Intrepid
Make: Tornado
Length: 7m +
Engine: Twin 150 Yamaha HPDI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Depending on the sea state I get between 1.6 to 2l a mile out of it cruising, but as expected this goes up stupidly doing 40knts+, towing, or at displacement speeds. .
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Hmm, thats interesting..
Doing WOT in mine, about 55knots, uses about 120litres and hour, so about 1.9l/mile
Doing 40knots, it uses about 60l/hr so about 1.3 litres to the mile...
I think those calculations are about right - if so, I guess the fuel consumption isnt all that bad!
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16 March 2007, 22:50
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
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Make: Flatacraft
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So anyone going to give me a top speed and consumption for twin 90's?
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16 March 2007, 23:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Intrepid
Make: Tornado
Length: 7m +
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I agree with Nasher, you may struggle to get 25 knots with all that weight.
With a light load, low fuel etc... I managed to get 43 knots from my boat, with twin 115's, with 5 people on board, and full tanks, I was lucky to get 35.
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