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11 July 2009, 21:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sunderland
Boat name: Sarah Louise
Make: Avon S4-60
Length: 4m +
Engine: 25 Mariner, 2.3 Merc
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Suzuki 25hp
Hi,
I have just bought a SIB with a 25hp short shaft two stroke Suzuki. The man I bought it of told me it was a 1997 -1998 engine, but I know this could be well off.
The engine looks fine, but I can't find any model or serial number. Can someone tell me where I would look? I fear it should be on the transom mount, because if it was, it has long since peeled off.
Also hoping someone may be able to tell me something more from some photos I took.
I'd like to know the oil mix before I use it, and possibly an age range?
I know I a masking a bit much from just a few photos, but thanks in advance for any help!
Geoff
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11 July 2009, 21:56
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Swindon
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 239050687/235055163
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Posts: 8,881
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff_Jubb
Hi,
I have just bought a SIB with a 25hp short shaft two stroke Suzuki. The man I bought it of told me it was a 1997 -1998 engine, but I know this could be well off.
The engine looks fine, but I can't find any model or serial number. Can someone tell me where I would look? I fear it should be on the transom mount, because if it was, it has long since peeled off.
Also hoping someone may be able to tell me something more from some photos I took.
I'd like to know the oil mix before I use it, and possibly an age range?
I know I a masking a bit much from just a few photos, but thanks in advance for any help!
Geoff
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50:1
Not sure on the age though, but at a guess about right or earlier.
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11 July 2009, 22:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sunderland
Boat name: Sarah Louise
Make: Avon S4-60
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Engine: 25 Mariner, 2.3 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Thanks Nos4r2, every engine I have owned you have given me advice on, so thanks VERY much.
I know you will somehow know, but are you quite positive about the mix? It sounds right, and if you say so, I'll treat it as that from now on.
Cheers,
Geoff
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12 July 2009, 00:42
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Swindon
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 239050687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 8,881
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff_Jubb
Thanks Nos4r2, every engine I have owned you have given me advice on, so thanks VERY much.
I know you will somehow know, but are you quite positive about the mix? It sounds right, and if you say so, I'll treat it as that from now on.
Cheers,
Geoff
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As positive as possible without having year data.
The early 80's DT25 ran 50:1 and 100:1 (the only other option) isn't really enough oil for an older engine.
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12 July 2009, 00:58
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff_Jubb
The man I bought it of told me it was a 1997 -1998 engine, but I know this could be well off.
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Yes, around 15 years off! That motor is 1983-85 
Run it on 50:1 mix.
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12 July 2009, 03:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Truro-Cornwall & Angola
Boat name: Bananas in Blue
Make: Humber Destroyer 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-Tec 115
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 285
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Yes, around 15 years off! That motor is 1983-85 
Run it on 50:1 mix. 
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I'd have guessed mid/early 80s too....
Taking a sellers word on the age of an outboard is often a mistake when you do not have that much knowledge on the subject. Always check with a dealer/ reliable source. They should be able to give a good idea even without the serial no.
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12 July 2009, 11:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sunderland
Boat name: Sarah Louise
Make: Avon S4-60
Length: 4m +
Engine: 25 Mariner, 2.3 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Thanks for your help guys.
I never believe what an owner tells me about engines anymore, and it was part of a package that I wanted.
The engine is clean and very little corrosion, so as long as it runs fine I guess it doesn't really matter the age, but its nice to know.
If there is no serial or model, how will I order spares in the future?
Cheers,
Geoff
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12 July 2009, 15:35
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff_Jubb
If there is no serial or model, how will I order spares in the future?
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Yes, it's stamped on a rectangular plate on the transom saddle, but the photo you posted shows it's missing.
It will also be stamped on the cylinder block, sometimes on a small circular disc - not sure exactly where on a DT25.
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12 July 2009, 16:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sunderland
Boat name: Sarah Louise
Make: Avon S4-60
Length: 4m +
Engine: 25 Mariner, 2.3 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Yes, it's stamped on a rectangular plate on the transom saddle, but the photo you posted shows it's missing.
It will also be stamped on the cylinder block, sometimes on a small circular disc - not sure exactly where on a DT25.
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So it is a DT25 then. I did see a number on the block, but I thought it was a part number. I will have another look, thanks Dai.
Geoff
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13 July 2009, 09:03
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,854
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'88 at the very youngest - it was in 89 the 3 cyl auto oiling version appeared.
Suzuki seemed to be reasonably good at not faffing about changing things randomly. Assuming you can't find the serial number, have a look here, http://store.brownspoint.com/dt25.asp if you look the PDF name has the years it covers, and they seem to go in 3ish year blocks. Now bearing in mind that's about as long as a set of livery transfers would run before the marketing bods decided it was time for a respray, it wonlt take too ling to scan through 4 or 5 PDFs to see if your particular part carries the same part number.
Going by the paint job on the cowl I'd guess it's a late 80s machine.
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