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17 November 2006, 08:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bursledon
Boat name: Mustard
Make: Ribeye 785
Length: 7m +
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Ribcraft 585 Auxiliary Engine?
I have just bought a second hand Ribcraft 585 with a Mercury 90hp. I would like to carry an auxiliary for offshore trips. What size of engine do I need? I don't need to be able to necessarily contnue at speed, just get home or to safety. I would prefer to use a four stroke so that I can use the existing fuel supplies?
Any comments or advice would be very much appreciated.
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17 November 2006, 14:23
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RIBnet supporter
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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When I asked the same question a few months ago I was quoted 1hp per metre of boat as a general rule of thumb, and I therefore have a 6hp Johnson 4 stroke long shaft on my Humber 5.8. Having been out in a bit of wind with it, I'd not like anything less.... in a 20kt (ish) wind I get about 4.5kt into wind and about 5.5-6kt (GPS readout) downwind, but the real issue is not speed but control of the boat when the wind is catching you side-on, and it's a struggle to keep anything like a straight line even with the 6hp. You'll need to measure the transom to check shaft length, probably long shaft required as I doubt a standard short shaft will be long enough.
I bought a 4 stroke for the same reason, so I don't have to carry pre-mixed fuel on board and then worry about whether it has gone "off" or not. Lovely little engine (built by Suzuki and the same as the Suzy 6hp) if unused for a few weeks it needs 4/5 pulls to start it, and if its been running that day it starts first pull almost every time.
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17 November 2006, 15:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: darlington
Boat name: GlennVinny
Make: Leeway 6.3
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mariner135v6/4hp aux
MMSI: 235038455
Join Date: Apr 2006
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WE have a 4hp mariner 4 stroke which pushes along nicely at "get home speed." When its really windy, lock the aux in place, and use the wheel as normal, a bit more drag, but much better steering response.
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21 November 2006, 16:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bursledon
Boat name: Mustard
Make: Ribeye 785
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 200/Merc 6
MMSI: 235068693
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Aux Engine
Thanks guys. Since more is better, I guess it will be 6HP!
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21 November 2006, 17:13
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,788
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I would be tempted with a 2 stroke - stands up to the abuse an aux gets better. Also they are stopping small carb 2 strokes so should be some good bargains about. A Tohatsu 9.8 would be ideal and is very light.
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21 November 2006, 21:24
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RIBnet supporter
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
I would be tempted with a 2 stroke - stands up to the abuse an aux gets better. Also they are stopping small carb 2 strokes so should be some good bargains about. A Tohatsu 9.8 would be ideal and is very light.
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What are modern two stroke hand start engines like to start? I know with Dad's old seagull when I was a kid, you needed to think about starting it the day before, to stand any chance of getting away vaguely on time
can't get better than my 6hp four stroke for starting and I think thats important for when you need it in a hurry!
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21 November 2006, 21:26
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Well my chainsaw starts first pull no matter what the weather!!!
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21 November 2006, 23:15
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RIBnet supporter
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Well my chainsaw starts first pull no matter what the weather!!!
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Ah I see, so when your inflatable deflates you can teach the f***er a lesson? Sound thinking, in fact I might buy one myself
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21 November 2006, 23:39
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
I would be tempted with a 2 stroke - stands up to the abuse an aux gets better. Also they are stopping small carb 2 strokes so should be some good bargains about. A Tohatsu 9.8 would be ideal and is very light.
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I think you might be wrong... many yachties prefer 2-str (for various reasons - not least the storage on the side factor) and so there are rumours that people are buying or planning to buy 2str engines before the "ban" and will then sell them on after the ban (as second hand so legal  ) at a profit.
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22 November 2006, 08:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Peak District
Boat name: Plastique
Make: PRO Sport
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF115 4st.
MMSI: 235015228
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 109
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With so many engine failures being attributed to fuel problems maybe having another fuel source for a 2 stroke outboard is not such a bad thing. Most of the 9.9 Hp models are also available in 15 Hp with the same weight. An extra knot may just make the difference between getting back against a current and not getting back at all.
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