Pacific outdrive

Ian Austin · 26 September 2004, 22:43

Hi all
Still have not finished my trailer yet, so i decided to risk the removal of the inner bearing housing while still in the water.
Removed the shaft and the four retaining bolts for the housing and gently eased it apart, out it came and no water, bellows must be OK.

Removed the 8 alan bolts and split the unit, there was no oil or grease inside the unit so the bearings have been running dry, there is a grub screw on the top and on the side, i persume this is for oil, fill and level, i wish i knew that eariler.
So on the phone in the morning to order the bearings, seals and circlips

Neville · 27 September 2004, 14:36

Ian, the plugs can be quite difficult to remove sometimes. A little heat will soon sort that out. Also when you put the bearing housing back on with the four bolts, sometimes it doesnt go all the way home, and it is a good idea to check that it is sitting parallel with a set of shims. Remember the rubber donut!

These bearing housings are probably the most forgotten part of the sterndrive and it is common for the oil to be lost. Another good idea is to check the lip seal on the input drive shaft. When the seal is worn the oil will drip out of the front of the housing. We normally clean up the shaft in a lathe with emery to remove any rust, or remachine it slightly and resize the seal to match - all quite simple..

Good luck.

Pete7 · 27 September 2004, 15:02

Ian,

Sternpower and Halmatic manuals in the post today for you and Seb. A copy of the Halmatic manual to Jelly as well to see if he can turn them into a PDF. Just need authority from VT Halmatic to publish it, I will send them an email to see if its a problem.

Regards

Pete

Ian Austin · 27 September 2004, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Neville

Ian, the plugs can be quite difficult to remove sometimes. A little heat will soon sort that out. Also when you put the bearing housing back on with the four bolts, sometimes it doesnt go all the way home, and it is a good idea to check that it is sitting parallel with a set of shims. Remember the rubber donut

Good luck.

Neville

Good idea of yours heat up the plug, tried that last night, had heat on it for 40 mins, three twisted alan keys and still no b***dy movement, i have got to get the filler one out as it is in to far and i can't remove one bearing.

Ian Austin · 27 September 2004, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Pete7

Ian,

Sternpower and Halmatic manuals in the post today for you and Seb. A copy of the Halmatic manual to Jelly as well to see if he can turn them into a PDF. Just need authority from VT Halmatic to publish it, I will send them an email to see if its a problem.

Regards

Pete

Hi Pete
Mamy thanks for that mate, how many beer tokens do i owe you ??????
Is it you that Missus said might be turning up in Cardiff, if so i can pay my debt to you and you would be very welcome to join me on the water for the race's or an evening muck about.

Neville · 27 September 2004, 23:12

They can be sods, if it still wont come out, a trick that we have used is to weld on a steel bar to the grub screw. Then turn it to get it out. The combined heat of the mig welding, and the extra leverage sometimes does the trick. Then you just need to buy a new plug. Im sure it will just pop out when you are just on the verge of giving up!

Pete7 · 28 September 2004, 08:15

Ian, yes it was I, but unfortunately I can't make Cardiff. I have also just had the Port nylon hydraulic steering hose come loose and touch the turbo causing total loss of steering which was mildly worrying for a while. Took a litre of fluid to travel 1/2 a mile across Portland harbour very slowly. Will be carrying self amagamating tape next time. Hydraulic connecting widgets to carry out a repair have to be ordered because no one stocks 3/8" in Pompey, but should be sorted next week.

Keep meaning to have a look at my bearing widget and check the oil level.

We ought to arrange a big meet of all the P22 owners and have a parade of the fleet, perhaps next year at Ribex or something. I am sure Dirk Diggle would love to take the salute

Pete

Seb · 28 September 2004, 12:02

Your a gentleman Pete - thanks again for going to the effort of copying so many sheets!

Let me know how you want the beer tokens too.... you may be in for a bit of a party in exchange for these favours!!!

P22 meet sounds great - just wait until mines done (please!!!!!) How about P22's around britain? Would make an interesting read in RIB Int.

Cheers

Ian Austin · 29 September 2004, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete7

Ian,

Sternpower and Halmatic manuals in the post today for you and Seb. A copy of the Halmatic manual to Jelly as well to see if he can turn them into a PDF. Just need authority from VT Halmatic to publish it, I will send them an email to see if its a problem.

Regards

Pete

Pete
The manuals turned up today, many thanks,
i have already had a copy of the opperators ( Halmatic ) manual from you before, so now i have two, so if someone else is after one, i will post to them to save you printing yet another copy.

roohairy · 30 September 2004, 00:38

Yes Please Ian!

I have the velvet drive manual on CD if anyone needs it.

Dt125 · 03 October 2004, 11:30

Anyone out there that hasnt checked the oil in the intermediate bearing housing lately, my advice is DO IT NOW!!! Just had a big repair bill because the bearings had been running dry for ages by the looks of them and had fallen apart inside the housing mangling the shaft and making a real mess! :

Neville · 03 October 2004, 13:08

Unlucky. Unfortunately that bearing housing seems to get forgotten, and it willl run dry for a while before giving any audible symptoms. One problem is they are tucked away out of sight. Mind you, if you dont check the oil level in the sterndrive gearbox you will get a bigger bill!

Dt125 · 03 October 2004, 16:55

Anyone out there know where you can get sternpowr parts from that are cheaper than lancing? Even the most basic parts seem to cost the earth!

Neville · 03 October 2004, 17:43

DT125,

I have a supply of cheap factory recon upper & lower units - complete. As for bearings , seals, u/j etc, these can be sourced from any bearing supplier at a fraction of the cost. PM me if you want any specific details. Certainly all of the seals & bearings for the bearing housing can be bought for approx £100 from our normal bearing supplier.

Dt125 · 03 October 2004, 19:13

Neville,
Thanks for that, unfortunately ive already shelled out for the genuine parts, wish id come across you guys a few weeks ago! Will certainly drop you a line first next time. One thing im a bit concerned about is that theres quite a bit of left/right play in the leg when you move it, i think the aluminium blocks are a bit worn as well as the plastic shims that are either side of the steering cylinder, new blocks are £75 each!!! How much play is acceptable before i have to get new ones?

Ian Austin · 04 October 2004, 19:47

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Originally Posted by roohairy

Yes Please Ian!

I have the velvet drive manual on CD if anyone needs it.

Roohairy
We could do a swap

, (fair exchange and all that) P M me you postal address and i will send you my spare copy. If that is all right with you Mr 7.

Pete7 · 04 October 2004, 21:54

Ian, go for it, anything to help out a fellow owner

Ian Austin · 04 October 2004, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Pete7

Ian, go for it, anything to help out a fellow owner

Pete
Thanks mate, i am going to try to get up in the future, to meet you lot.

By special appointment.

Pete7 · 04 October 2004, 22:47

For JK, Jelly has done a PDF copy of the owners manual. Its 2.57 mb can you publish it on Ribnet somewhere ?

I have e mailed Halmatic last week but heard nothing from them ref copyright so I am asuming that having given them 7 days to reply they aren't really interested, afterall it is a 1981 document.

Ian, how about next years Ribex ? should give Seb a half decent deadline

Pete

Ian Austin · 04 October 2004, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Pete7

Ian, how about next years Ribex ? should give Seb a half decent deadline

Pete

Pete
sounds good to me, when is it ???
Seb was out with me in Cardiff and hopefuly it will spur him on, although he was a bit miffed that he sold his other one to me.

By special appointment