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04 November 2008, 16:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Boat name: Sea 'n Double
Make: Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50hp Mariner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 321
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Flushing an outboard in a plastic container
The last 2 slipways I've used didn't have a tap and unfortunately I don't have running water where my boat is stored. I'm trying so come up with a solution to flushing my engine without running water. I don't have room for a full sized barrel so wondered what the minimum size I would be able to get away with would be. I've considered using one of those plastic storage containers available in hardware stores but am not sure if the amount of water churned up by the exhaust is going to empty the container before the engine's had time to flush (I realise the water level would have to be over the water intake)
Filling the container using buckets wouldn't be too much of a problem as there's a water supply near by, just not near enough to use a hose.
Has anyone tried flushing in a container like this or even one of those flexible buckets?
The engine's a 50hp Mariner 2 stroke
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04 November 2008, 20:27
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 764
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Flushing : Big Dilemma
Your engine has a flushing port somewhere, this method cleans internal water passages better than with muffs, or cleaning barrel. Personal what dislike of the barrel method is all that oily poluted water going inside the engine, besides having hot water cooling not good for the engine specially if you like to clean engine for long periods. Keep in mind that thermostat will take it's time to open, so short flushing would not be advised. If flushed using a plastic barrel, engine must be on, never put forward, otherwise forget about all contained water in barrel. Get a big barrel so leg/propeller will fit nicely fill to 3/4. Add more water as level goes a bit down.
When started sibbing, used a big plastic barrel, a faucett was attached at the bottom, a hose was placed on to release and dispose oily water properly to a drainage. The empty container remained awfully oiled, so this method has it's pro's and con's too. To have an idea :
http://www.pbase.com/locozodiac/image/15570019
Happy Boating
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04 November 2008, 20:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: cornwall
Boat name: nothing
Make: lodestar
Length: 4m +
Engine: tatsu 50
MMSI: 666
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,698
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If the container is big enough to submerge the the motor up to the cav plate then it will do fine . I run my 50 Tohatsu in a small dustbin about 2/3 full and very little water is lost .
The water doesn't get that dirty unless you use the same water a few times and I reckon a tiny amount of oil residue going round the system has to be a plus point .
Oh and you have to put it gear and give the throttle a blip , its impossible to resist and the best way to empty the dustbin before you switch off
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04 November 2008, 21:50
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Swindon
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 239050687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 8,881
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ian parkes
If the container is big enough to submerge the the motor up to the cav plate then it will do fine . I run my 50 Tohatsu in a small dustbin about 2/3 full and very little water is lost .
The water doesn't get that dirty unless you use the same water a few times and I reckon a tiny amount of oil residue going round the system has to be a plus point .
Oh and you have to put it gear and give the throttle a blip , its impossible to resist and the best way to empty the dustbin before you switch off 
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Wants to be a bit deeper than that-about 6" above the plate. The impeller is about 3" above the plate on the Mariner 50.
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04 November 2008, 21:53
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 764
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ian parkes
The water doesn't get that dirty unless you use the same water a few times and I reckon a tiny amount of oil residue going round the system has to be a plus point .
Oh and you have to put it gear and give the throttle a blip , its impossible to resist and the best way to empty the dustbin before you switch off 
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Hola Ian
I usually flush a minimum of 10 minutes, but use muffs + flushing adapter combo on a street downhill.
Don't think you are employing that emptying barrel method at home/garage, are you ?
By the way did you managed to get yout beast working perfectly as expected ? Would like to hear about how much trouble was tunning 3 thirsty throats.
Happy Boating.
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04 November 2008, 21:59
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#6
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Boat name: Sea 'n Double
Make: Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50hp Mariner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 321
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Thanks guys, sounds like it's a possibility then.
Bit of experimenting is needed me thinks...
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04 November 2008, 22:12
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#7
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: cornwall
Boat name: nothing
Make: lodestar
Length: 4m +
Engine: tatsu 50
MMSI: 666
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
Hola Ian
I usually flush a minimum of 10 minutes, but use muffs + flushing adapter combo on a street downhill.
Don't think you are employing that emptying barrel method at home/garage, are you ?
By the way did you managed to get yout beast working perfectly as expected ? Would like to hear about how much trouble was tunning 3 thirsty throats.
Happy Boating.
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Yes it washes the garage floor a treat Mate .
I have now got a PDF manual so i can check it out.
Mat are you saying the merc 50 takes water in above the cav plate , never really seen one but i thought they were same as tohatsu .
Surely when its running on the plane the water level is not that high anyway ??
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04 November 2008, 22:31
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#8
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Swindon
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 239050687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 8,881
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ian parkes
Mat are you saying the merc 50 takes water in above the cav plate , never really seen one but i thought they were same as tohatsu .
Surely when its running on the plane the water level is not that high anyway ??
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No, but the impeller isn't self priming so you need to have the water high enough to cover the impeller itself. Most engines are like it.
BEsides, it's a good idea to get fresh water right up the inside of the leg to the same point the salt water gets to when the boat is stationary.
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05 November 2008, 08:08
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy JC
Has anyone tried flushing in a container like this or even one of those flexible buckets?
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Try a bucket or water carrier with a length of hose going to the flushing port, so long as you get the container at a good height it will flush through nicely.
We had to come up with various ways to flush engines before the hose ban was lifted and for engines with ports this is a good one.
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05 November 2008, 08:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheffield
Boat name: Touch Bottom
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50 hp Merc Power t&t
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy JC
The last 2 slipways I've used didn't have a tap and unfortunately I don't have running water where my boat is stored. I'm trying so come up with a solution to flushing my engine without running water. I don't have room for a full sized barrel so wondered what the minimum size I would be able to get away with would be. I've considered using one of those plastic storage containers available in hardware stores but am not sure if the amount of water churned up by the exhaust is going to empty the container before the engine's had time to flush (I realise the water level would have to be over the water intake)
Filling the container using buckets wouldn't be too much of a problem as there's a water supply near by, just not near enough to use a hose.
Has anyone tried flushing in a container like this or even one of those flexible buckets?
The engine's a 50hp Mariner 2 stroke
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If you take the prop off it wont empty the container when you put it in gear.
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