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Old 17 October 2014, 14:15   #11
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You can still legally buy two strokes!!! You can go off people you know!!! By the way, if that's the case, if you find a good one, don't pass up an 85 Yam.
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Old 17 October 2014, 15:01   #12
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On which Island can you still buy a new 2 stroke ? , and do the dealers still stock them ?.
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Old 17 October 2014, 16:58   #13
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I live in Jersey but I suspect it will be true for all the Islands. As we're not part of the EU or UK, we are only governed by Jersey law which means dealers in the UK who legally supply 2 strokes for UK commercial customers can also ship here to residents. The shipping costs are quite high, but goods are zero rated for VAT which offsets that (although GST is payable on any imports over about 250 which is currently 5%) . It would of course be illegal to sell it back into the UK.

I suspect the local dealers can probably supply them, but it's usually cheaper to import most things from the UK yourself.
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Old 18 October 2014, 03:59   #14
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I wouldn't look past an opti 75 or 90. Big engine but great on fuel and all the power in the world. I feel hydrolic steering is a must if you are going to bolt a large carbed 4s or opti on, or the craft will be twitchy at wot.

Having said that, if you can find a nice second hand honda 75/90 they are a great engine on a searider.

I've been through a yamaha 75 pro 2s, yamaha 80 2s, yammie 90 2s, they all give like for like performance with a 17P SS prop.
I've also had carbed 4s merc and mariner 75's, a wee bit heavy but good on the juice. Watch out for big end bearing going on them. (There is a nice cheap one on fleebay for 2250 item number - 261629467158)
I've had a twatsoo 90 2s that was good lump but thirsty like the yammies.
I've had a Suzuki 90 4s efi. Good engine but seriously heavy!! About 185kg. Not as good as the opti on fuel.
The opti is a nice unit but can be expensive to service or repair and is full of electrics.
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Old 18 October 2014, 04:13   #15
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Old 18 October 2014, 04:35   #16
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Had a 90hp Mariner 2 stroke on my Searider. 40ish knots with a 20" ss prop.
Good match for the boat - as others have said look to fit the lightest motor possible. The Searider is a really narrow hull and doesn't like weight.
I had simple cable steering and didn't feel the need for hydraulic.
Honda 75/90 and opti 75/90 heavy engines I think.

If you can buy a new yamaha 90 2 stroke I'd go for it. Will BHG in Lymington supply.
Let us know the cost if you go ahead.
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Old 20 October 2014, 16:44   #17
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For those that are interested, i've had two quotes - both just over 5k (ex VAT)
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Old 21 October 2014, 13:24   #18
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Some good info here but for me go to the top on hp for your boat you have plenty of scope then you can always throttle back less work for the engine carry that bit more kit etc no two days are the same.
Good luck with your choice

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