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Old 26 July 2004, 16:57   #11
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My question is, will i be missing out on any benefits, if any, by not buying a 'better' outboard of same power and stroke, eg better grunt, auto mixing etc.
If the price is right then you're unlikely to go far wrong with the Tohatsu. It is a no frills engine, using "tried and tested" rather than "cutting edge" technology but I wouldn't be too bothered.

It may not be the most fuel efficient of all outboards, but with a 30hp it's not likely to make a huge difference. It will also be a bit noisier than some, and on a boat that size you're going to be sitting pretty close to it, but you're going to be having so much fun that you probably won't notice!

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Old 26 July 2004, 16:59   #12
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Tue, Simon,

Ive just noted your deatails and see that you both have powerful outboards and big boats! They look a bit beyond me at the moment, in terms of size, cost, power, storage etc.

This game is all new to me.
We all have to start somewhere. I had a little 14' Marina with a 30hp Yamaha to start with (till I saw the light and found something with tubes round it ).

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I also note Tue, that you are based 30 odd miles from my location - Plymouth.
When mines finishedand I bring it to Plymouth you'll have to come out and see how much fun big boats and powerfull outboards can be if a little more expensive to run than a 30hp on a 4.2m SIB )
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Old 26 July 2004, 17:47   #13
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Cheers John,

Tue was saying in earlier post that i may not notice the difference between 25 hp and 30hp on a light Zodiac Futura. I'm wondering if 5hp extra will make pulling rings etc, easier and give that little extra performance. The difference is £600 for that extra 5 hp.

Worth it?

Tue, as i am now back online, i will be following threads on this site now and hope to learn a thing or two.

This tube boat thing seems addictive, I'm hoping it will replace my main passion in motorcycles, which i have after 20 odd years, decided to put on the back burner for a change in direction.

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Old 26 July 2004, 17:56   #14
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This tube boat thing seems addictive, I'm hoping it will replace my main passion in motorcycles
Nah, just run a boat and motorbike - they're not mutually exclusive as Jono, Jono Garton, MeMe and myself will happily testify

By the way, Timmy, the Honda 30hp weighs 71kgs which is the lightest 4-stroke engine on the market. In answer to your concerns re. 25 v 30 horsepower engines, my brother runs a Bombard 3.8m inflatable with a Yamaha 25 2-stroke and he can pull a skier without any problem, not to mention his doughnut.
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Old 26 July 2004, 18:02   #15
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aha, you run a 4m with 30 hp i see! Is it a RIB or SIB?

BTW - does SIB mean 'soft inflatable boat'?

Just sold my BMW GS 1150!

Did not read the end of your reply at first go!

Thanks for the info on the 25 v 30 prob. I've considered the Bombard but went for the Futura cos of lightness. However i think that the Bombard is also a very light boat - not sure if it is a RIB or inflatable tho.
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Old 26 July 2004, 18:09   #16
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Yes, you're correct about the meaning of SIB. My 4m is a RIB and, due to its heavier weight and water ballast hull, will not pull a skier, although it's fine with the doughnut. Sorry to hear about the Beemer! Incidentally, my brother's Yamaha 25 is oil injection and a damn fine piece of kit.
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Thanks everyone for your help.

Yep GS gone! Wouldnt know what to replace it with at mo. So buying a boat instead!

The Yamaha motors do seem like top bits of kit and well refined. I was going to buy 30hp Yam 2 stroke until i was persuaded to save my money and go for a mint 25hp Tohatsu - today

I agreed and now wonder if i should have gone for the 30hp as you know from previous posts.

I was told that the Zodiac - being 69KG with air deck - will 'fly' with the 25 and pull a doughnut with ease.

Its all too much for me! I am getting pressure from mates who want to ski. Only they're not paying!
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I am getting pressure from mates who want to ski. Only they're not paying!
Sounds familiar! Everyone kept telling me to get a 50hp so they could ski behind my RIB, and some even suggested getting a bigger RIB altogether so I could carry them in more comfort And, like you, I became confused, but unlike you, I was stunned into inactivity and stuck with what I had. I suppose the one thing I did learn was that if I ever get a bigger RIB it's going to have the maximum recommended horsepower on the back!

I wouldn't worry too much about the difference between the 25 and 30hp, because once you're hooked on your new hobby you'll undoubtedly want to upgrade your boat and engine in due course anyway. As John Kennett says, you'll be having too much fun to notice anyway. Enjoy!
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Remember who your buying your boat for, its great your mates want to go skiing and the first few trips out will be a hoot, but eventually they'll get bored or the weather will get colder then your stuck out alone or have to join us sad muppets cruising if you get hooked

Phils correct, you wont notice much difference at this level with an extra 5hp

Enjoy the buying bit, the day you tow it home your'll never be more happier, then when things go wrong your'll curse the day you ever decided to get into boats
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Hi Timmy,
I wouldn’t worry about the engine not being auto-lube (oil injected), in fact I would be happier if it wasn’t.
Our dive club have just gone over to a RIB with a Suzuki 4 stroke engine, we still have 2 SIB’s both with Yamaha 2 stroke engines. One is a 30hp without auto-lube on a 5M SIB, this engine is over 15 years old and has been the most reliable 2 stroke engine we have ever had.
The other is a 40hp with auto-lube on a 5.2 SIB, this is about 7 years old and has had all sorts of problems, mainly jets in the carbs blocking. (we have had to strip down the carbs at least twice every year since we’ve had it) We also had another Yamaha 30hp for about 6 years which was also auto-lube this had the same problem’s.
I don’t know if we have just been unlucky with the auto-lube engines but now most of the clubs opinion is “if we cant get a pre-mix 2 stroke we’ll go for a 4 stroke”
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