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Old 14 October 2015, 14:25   #21
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You obviously don't know Pikey very well!
That's perhaps why I read and digest what he's saying.
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Old 14 October 2015, 14:32   #22
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That's perhaps why I read and digest what he's saying.

You reckon
Whatever it is you got....you got it Bad Pal!
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Old 14 October 2015, 14:34   #23
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Old 14 October 2015, 14:48   #24
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The trend, you will notice, is that there are bigger differences between one model and year than there is between brands. They all buy compenents from one another.....eg my Honda BF130 has a Mercury gearbox.... I believe some of the 2T Yam V6s had Mercury power heads. The small Mercurys are built by Tohatsu (Nissan ?) I believe the newer Johnson 4 strokes have Suzuki engines under the hood. Old OMC two strokes were bomb proof but you wouldn't want a 2000 one.

Don't touch "Volvo Penta" outboards, you can't get basic service parts for them. (Their inboards are excelent). Don't touch "Chrysler" (Force).

In essence the best thing to do is look for a bargain then do some research into the model and year to look for issues.
Don't go down the route of brand loyalty they all have skeletons in the cupboard.
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In this part of the world like the US we have a huge boating community and the weather to boat all year round. We also need to register most types of boat and own a licence to drive a boat capable of doing more than 10 knots.

With that in mind the state I live in has around 250000 registered boats and the state of Queensland slightly higher (there are 6 states).

Without any doubt you can soon see that the majority of outboards on boats especially commercial are Yamaha and Suzuki.

When etec's first came out they were used on many of the government body boats (maritime, water police etc). These departments soon went back to the Yam and Suzuki outboards.

While etec sales are still quite strong over here they are nowhere near the other two. A mechanic friend from a house boat business in Sydney was telling me how they can clock up 3000 hrs per year on an outboard (two per boat). He also stated they used to use Honda but the initial cost was higher than the other big two. They replace their engines at around 3 yrs or 9000 hrs and still get reasonable money second hand for them.

I recently bought a Suzuki 90 (latest model) and while I had very good economy and no problems at all in the 300 hrs (12 months use) I still proffered Yamaha. I recently sold that boat and now have another Yam 70 4 stroke (second boat with this little 4 stroke).

Personally I think any outboard these days needs to be pretty good to stay in the market but theres a huge difference in the amount of hours some are able to do.

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Aside from the commercial boat users on here how many hours per year do most people put on their engines ?

Ive clocked around 80 in the last 3 months (winter) but this will obviously creep up now we are heading into better weather.

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If you look you can find horror stories and engine with 5000 hours on them from all brands. Everybody is making a quality product but all manufactured items will have the bell curve of quality or whatever you want to call it, bad apples and amazing apples. That's why the determining factor seems to be service. Proper maintenance is key. If you don't have a service location you like you will create problems.

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I keep asking meself the same question I was offered a deal I couldn't refuse
Ha ha rubbish PD.. Not when you totally speck up your new dinghy with all bling possible and spend s on a new trailer! Nowt to do with price old boy and RC refuse to fit them!!
Ribs become less saleable with these units on as some people are finding out!!��
In terms of the Best out board Manufacturer as the OP has asked, there probably isn't one.
It would however be interesting to see the Outboard registrations p/a from the manufacturers as I would imagine the most units sold would filter down to be the closest to the answer you are looking for
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It would however be interesting to see the Outboard registrations p/a from the manufacturers as I would imagine the most units sold would filter down to be the closest to the answer you are looking for
Does volume equal best? Would you make that assumption if it was cars (I don't know what most popular car make is - but it would suggest that best is different in different countries, and affordability (which the OP said to ignore) must be a factor). surely Best (if such a thing exists) would be an aspirational rather than budget brand?

We should probably just have closed the thread when TSM gave the only helpful response that is possible. Everything else will be brand loyalty / based on their own personal experience of a handful of engines / trying to talk up the resale value of their rig / trolling etc...
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