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Old 24 September 2010, 16:21   #1
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Automatic transmission fluid

Hi

I have recently gotten a 2002 Honda ob 130hp. The Tilt is giving a little bit of trouble and it looks like the fluid is low. A few questions -

what colour should the fluid be? From what I can see its white on the honda.

What type of fluid is it? Can anyone tell me more than Automatic Transmission Fluid.
I found the following info on web - HONDA ATF-Z1.

Can anyone recommend an alternative to HONDA ATF-Z1?

Thanks for your help.

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Old 24 September 2010, 16:45   #2
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Should be just ATF- Red in colour.

White Fluid??? This would indicate water in the system which has mixed with the ATF/ Trim oil
Check for leaks??
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Old 24 September 2010, 23:15   #3
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hi
There is an odd company that produces a white/opaque ATF fluid, but the normal is red, mixing colours is fine.
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Old 25 September 2010, 06:19   #4
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Thanks guys.

The top of the trim rams is leaking and the fluid looks reddish.

A Honda guy said that a 20 weight ATF could be used instead. Anyone know what that is?

So I can just use regular red ATF to top up?

Has anyone ever serviced there tilt/trim rams? Is it a big job?

If I try myself should I consider replacing more than the seals on the top of the trim rams?

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Old 25 September 2010, 10:30   #5
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there are different grades of ATF just go to your motor factors ans ask for 20 weight or look at the labels in te garage

seals, and circlips (if fitted) should be enough do honda do a refurb kit
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Old 25 September 2010, 20:57   #6
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Manual says Genuine Honda ATF DEXRON or equivalent, so you'll be fine with any ATF. If you buy from a factors, you're only choice will be Dexron II or III (if you get a choice,) II being slightly more viscous at low temperatures but will make no difference. Since you're using ATF as a hydraulic oil rather than a transmission fluid the detail is really irrelevant.

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PS Doesn't look like a bad job to do.
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Old 28 September 2010, 08:01   #7
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Thanks for info folks. The atf did have water in it. We are going to replace all the seals and need to replace both piston rods (trim) as they have pitting.

Can anyone tell me if I need to take the engine off or should I beable to remove the bolts and just have the unit drop out? We need to get the tilt piston rod out to inspect it.

Thanks

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Old 28 September 2010, 11:13   #8
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Clear colourless hydraulic fluid (as opposed to opaque white with water in) is called LIC 10 and its hydraulic fluid for car hoists and stuff.
Works ok in mariners.
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