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Old 09 July 2009, 14:02   #1
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2 stroke oil TCW3

just came accross this

http://www.lubetechshop.co.uk/produc...roducts_id=178

any one ever used it,?
or is quicksilver or unipart marine oil, the only way to go,
i know these engines cost a small fortun,e but damn its getting harder to get hold of these days, really struggled to purchase some last weekend, what boat yards shut 2;00pm sat and closed sundays,, and they wonder why there going bust,
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Looks fine to me - as long as it's passed the certification.

I would rather go with Rock Oil or morris oils though!!!
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I would rather go with Rock Oil or morris oils though!!!
I thought your argument was they are all the same anyway - so why is one brand better than another?
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I thought your argument was they are all the same anyway - so why is one brand better than another?
I did NOT say they are ALL the same!!!

The reason it's better to use a better known supplier is to make sure you really ARE getting what it says on the tin.

I suspect there are prob only a small number of companies that actually refine these oils - many others just blend them and even more just repackage them.

I know a bloke who worked for Duckhams - he was an engineer there and he said that it was incredible the companies they used to supply with oil. These days he works with a slightly thicker oil - bitumen!!!
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I did NOT say they are ALL the same!!!
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TCW3 is the spec for 2 stroke outboard oil.
Don't buy branded stuff - it's a waste of money.
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as long as it's a TCW3 spec it will be ok..........The oil is identical to the Mercury Quicksilver stuff but far less money.
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hate the way people get ripped off with branded stuff etc when something else does the purpose just as well but cheaper!!!
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As long as the oil meets the right spec it will be ok - the performance oil market has to be one of the biggest rip offs ever - most of the stuff comes from the same source and is rebadged and priced in accordance!
not an exaustive list of your quotes - but you always say "Branded Oil" is a rip off and then tell people to use "Rock Oil" - now thats just another brand, albeit a cheaper one!
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mmm...





not an exaustive list of your quotes - but you always say "Branded Oil" is a rip off and then tell people to use "Rock Oil" - now thats just another brand, albeit a cheaper one!
I challenge you to find someone selling a bottle of TCW3 oil with NO brand at all on it - stop being so pedantic!!!
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I challenge you to find someone selling a bottle of TCW3 oil with NO brand at all on it - stop being so pedantic!!!
no your missing the point. implying that "Rock oil TCW3" is better than "Exol TCW3" as you did is no different to someone saying "Quicksilver TCW3" is better. You are attributing some value to the brand (rightly or wrongly). But you've been arguing for years that they were all essentially the same stuff, in which case its difficult to see why Rock or Morris should be preferable.
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I didn't say it was better - just haven't heard of it before!!!
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I know it's not quite the same, but still involves fairly small high output engines, but the mechanic who I take my 'bike to races a Suzuki GSXR 1000, a Ducati 996 and a Yamaha R1 1000cc. He uses the same engine oil in his race bikes as he does for mine and all the others
he services. Morris.

Before he went into the motorcycle business he was in the RAF for 20 years and before deciding on an oil to use in his business he carried out very extensive tests of commercially available oils using virtually the same criterion as he used to do with Tornado jets.
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I wouldn't like to see a Tornado in a HFRR!!!
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