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Old 16 July 2018, 15:08   #1
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1998 Yamaha 9.9

I have seen a Yam9.9 for sale. Older than I wanted (1998) average usage but it really good condition. Just had dealer service and sold from a dealer.


I have a few niggles.
Its £850. Is it worth it? I cant believe how much used engines are.
I can get a new Tohatsu for £1300. Double the price but new. Should last me out unless i upgrade to a 15hp at £1600.
Obviously a new Yamaha is more £2000.
Then there is the weight. Its 45kg. Same weight as a new 15hp Tohatsu.
I have never lifted a outboard up, so dont know how hard it is. A bag of sand is 25kg and easy.2 bags is getting heavy. Thats using 2 hands. Outboards only have 1 handle. I will have to walk down to the beach with it. Only 1 handle so no space for someone to help me.


Then, how long will it last? Thats the big question. It wont get much use from me, so used is more particle.
Can you still get the parts for a 20 year old Yam
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Old 16 July 2018, 15:33   #2
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45kg for a 9.9! If really so... too heavy... too heavy... too heavy!!

Lifting outboards is unrelated to how much weight you can lift with other products. They are top heavy and slippery with sticky out bits that dig in you.
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They are huge great bulbous things, bigger than modern 25hps now.

That being said they aren’t blighted by the useless Mercury derived electrics as used on the F25/30/40. They last forever and parts availability is no problem.
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45kg for a 9.9! If really so... too heavy... too heavy... too heavy!!

Lifting outboards is unrelated to how much weight you can lift with other products. They are top heavy and slippery with sticky out bits that dig in you.
Thats what his add says. Yam F9.9. 232cc 45kg.
Why are you shocked. A new new one is 39kg. only 6kg less. A 15hp is 51kg
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OMO but if you look like you will need 15 go for it now the tohatsu engines get a lot of respect originally made for Japanese fisherman needing reliability if you buy a9.9 then want to swap you will lose the £300 on the deal new verses old all I will say is your paying double for a new engine with new technology etc20 years younger with full knowledge of its history.
If you have to carry get a sack barrow B&Q do a lightweight one carries 80kg folds to nothing
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just did a check on new ones.
Yamaha 9.9 is 39kg
Yamaha 15 is 51 kg
that is 11kg jump from 10 to 15hp


Tohatsu 9.8 is 37 kg...only 2kg less than the Yam
Tohatsu 15 is 43 kg......... 8kg less than the Yam

that is only 6kg jump from 10 to 15
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Old 16 July 2018, 16:24   #7
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>>>Why are you shocked. A new new one is 39kg. only 6kg less. A 15hp is 51kg

When I started sibbing no-one wanted a 4-stroke on a daily inflate/set up sib due to their weight... that's why the 2-strokes have been and still are so popular.

However in recent years the 4-strokes have become lighter and are no offering real competition in the portability stakes.

There are several newer model 20hp 4-strokes now weighing 43-45kg so I would not want half the HP that weighed the same. A 51kg 15hp isn't "good value" in the HP vs weight stakes either.

But as Jeff says the Tohatsu are a basic no-frills engine that are highly regarded for their tough reliable build so if you get a chance at a new one that suits you go for it.
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OMO but if you look like you will need 15 go for it now the tohatsu engines get a lot of respect originally made for Japanese fisherman needing reliability if you buy a9.9 then want to swap you will lose the £300 on the deal new verses old all I will say is your paying double for a new engine with new technology etc20 years younger with full knowledge of its history.
If you have to carry get a sack barrow B&Q do a lightweight one carries 80kg folds to nothing



I have thought long and hard.Watched vids etc I have 0 experience.
Its for a 3.3 inflatable. Max is 15kg.
I could get a 6hp for only £800. Built in fuel tank and weighs the least. Sounded the best. Asking about and looking at vids, it wasnt enough power for the sea.

15hp had bags of power but cost the most and weighed the most.
10hp looked fine. Cost a little less and weighed a little less.


After saying all that. Looking at the Tohatsu 10 and 15. There isnt much in it.
Looking at a Yam, I would get a 10hp.
just tying to keep the weight down. I am 16 stone. My lad is about 10. Daughter 7 and my wife??? no one knows guessing 9/10. Total 273kg plus motor? 310/ 320kg

Boat is 380kg max. Dont want it at its max
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Do you want a newer 4-stroke... or would one of the 36kg Mercury/Mariner 2-strokes from early-mid 2000s do you? There have been loads about recently around £750-£1000.
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Dont forget the servicing thing ,Buy new with 5 year guarantee ,then spend another 20% money for service every year in order to keep up warranty ,some say best bet is to buy new ,never have it profesionly serviced ,use it 5 or 6 years then stick it on ebay and get 2/3rds of the price of a new one, and start again
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