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Old 25 July 2012, 07:32   #11
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The main thing is the OOW doesn't go too far into the masters legislation which is what i'm after mainly, I touched on it briefly in college and the MCA just tell me to go to college for a course and i'd rather self study to fit in with work so was looking for notes just to help me along.

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Old 25 July 2012, 07:40   #12
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Are you doing the Master 500?
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Old 25 July 2012, 07:43   #13
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Master 200 (Code Vessels) as the vessel I'm working on is a small survey boat (15.8LOA)

If I can be eligible for the Master 500 then I would do that, I'll go check just now.

(Don't have the seatime to go for that certificate)

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Old 25 July 2012, 07:44   #14
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Oh, I see. ok will see what I can do. pm your email address. Cheers Will
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Old 25 July 2012, 07:47   #15
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Actually, if you have a OOW 3000 then according to MSN 1802 I think, they will just give you the M200 without the exam.

They must surely do the same for an OOW unlimited!
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14.0 Endorsing existing OOW (Yachts) and Chief Mate (Yachts) CoCs
14.1 Holders of OOW (Yachts less than 3000gt) and Chief Mate (Yachts less than 3000gt) certificates may wish to obtain the endorsement for Master (Code Vessels, less than 200gt).
14.2 For holders of a Yachtmaster Offshore Certificate the endorsement will be limited to 150 miles from a safe haven. For holders of a Yachtmaster Ocean Certificate the endorsement will be unlimited. Unless the Yachtmaster certificate was issued before 31 July 2003 then the certificate of successful completion of the corresponding shore- based course is also required.
14.3 Endorsements will be added to existing CoCs upon revalidation at no extra cost. A written request and GMDSS GOC should accompany the revalidation application. The appropriate Yachtmaster certificate, with shore-based completion certificate if required, should be sent with the revalidation application if not previously sighted by MCA e.g. where an OOW now has a Yachtmaster Ocean certificate and requires the unlimited area endorsement.
14.4 If the endorsement is required before revalidation an application should be made to the MCA Seafarer Training and Certification Branch (see Paragraph 9 Application procedure and Annex F).
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Just spoke to the MCA and for the OOW unlimited an oral exam is needed.

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Old 25 July 2012, 08:02   #18
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so if you have an OOW 3000 they give you the M200 but if you have the much higher OOW unlimited you have to take an oral to get the M200?

Bonkers!
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Yeah seems a bit strange but someone, somewhere thinks it's the right thing to do.
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Done the course prep at Warsash a while back now though.
The best advice I can give is invest in a Mcneils seamanship examiner book, for mates/Masters.

If you know the answeres in the book (most of them!) you will pass.

When I did my Masters Orals, there was a group of 6 or 7 of us who would spend 1/2 the day just going through the book, plus the bouyage cards, and light cards etc etc. We were all well prepared and most of us passed.

Good luck where/when ever you do orals is also helpfull!
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