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Old 26 January 2005, 14:44   #11
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In the new codes for small craft art 7.3.2 refers to what you quoted Mike "In a location where vapours may accumilate a detector to be fitted.
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Old 27 January 2005, 08:00   #12
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We were told by our surveyor that we required a Hydrocarbon detector as the underfloor fuel tank was in a space that could accumulate fumes even with the Vent.We did not want to argue the point so fitted it . We had the survey carried out in December and have only just been informed we need Toe holds which we queried at the time as we deemed them to be a tripping hazard Anybody know if we can get ones that lay flat to the deck (Like Old suitcase handles ) which can be lifted to put toes under or do you use rope. Any Pictures Would help . Once we have done this we will be issued with our certificate
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Old 02 February 2005, 14:53   #13
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Toe holds?

If you can only code an 'open' boat to Cat 4, which limits weather/conditions, why does the surveyor want toe holds? The only reference I can find talks about 'as neccessary...':

22.2.6

In an inflatable boat or a rigid inflatable boat, handgrips, toeholds and handrails should be provided as necessary to ensure safety of all persons on board during transit and the worst weather conditions likely to be encountered in the intended area of operation.

What are you going to be doing!!

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Old 03 February 2005, 05:23   #14
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HC Detector suppliers

Saw this fitted to a Ribcraft recently. Looked like a very neat panel and quality unit.

http://www.bepmarine.com/showproduct.cfm?productid=822

Also heard that if fitted in a very new boat the products given off by the final cure of the resins can set HC detectors off.
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Old 03 February 2005, 12:30   #15
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If you can only code an 'open' boat to Cat 4, which limits weather/conditions, why does the surveyor want toe holds? The only reference I can find talks about 'as neccessary...':

22.2.6

In an inflatable boat or a rigid inflatable boat, handgrips, toeholds and handrails should be provided as necessary to ensure safety of all persons on board during transit and the worst weather conditions likely to be encountered in the intended area of operation.

What are you going to be doing!!

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I've tried argueing the point that we would not be venturing out in weather that would warrent Toe holds

It didnt work !

His arguement is that the weather can turn suddenly Which is fair enough

I see them as a tripping hazard as well as a potental danger if the worst happens and we get Capsized ever

But at the end of the day I want to get the boat coded not spend the rest of the coming season argueing about it
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Old 03 February 2005, 16:03   #16
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Fit them and then take them off, you can always explain that they turned out to be a trip hazard following an "in house" safety inspection.

Thankfully I didn't have that problem when Duncan inspected Old Spice. He was very thorough and made several recommendations which I was only to happy to impliment

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Just goes to show how all these stupid regs are open to different interpretations - very few Ribs are ever fitted with toe straps!!!
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