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Old 15 August 2003, 12:54   #11
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I sent the an email to newsonline@bbc.co.uk about it after I read it, seems like it was pretty much a quick copy and paste job off the Bear Grylls website, no research done at all.
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Well, I just read the article regarding Bear and immediately emailed the BBC website regarding their error. While Bear and his crew did finish the crossing, they did not make any records. The record remains with Alan Priddy and his crew. I certainly hope the BBC will check the FACTS before printing again.
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Yep, pointed the record thing out too. The BBC makes it sound like they've set an official record or something in that report.

Seems recently the BBC have not only been going downhill with spelling and grammar, but also with quality of reporting.
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My opinion is both teams have achieved remarkable work. Alan´s trip in 1997 where assisted from a Danish Navy ship out of Greenland´s coast and also they ran out of fuel out of Iceland´s coast and came to port Reykjavik on board Icelandic trawler "Otto N. Thorlaksson" so they where not all time on sea, Bear however went this trip without any assistance from Danish- nor Icelandic ships therefore to my opinion they are entitled to be the first team to cross the North Atlantic ocean via Greenland and Iceland in an open RIB. The Alan´s trip in his attempt to cross the North Atlantic ocean in cabin RIB and they did that with style this time.
The Irish fellow I have seen mentioned on the forum is not entitled to any credit as he was cruising in much calmer and easier waters.
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An accomplishment to cross the North Atlantic, indeed BUT I do believe Bear's boat had some type of box they were able to get into as well. I'm sure their box is equilavent to the tiny cabin on the Jolly Sailor. In addition, I believe the Jolly Sailor was smaller and had a smaller motor than Bear's boat.

Alan Priddy and his crew are the ONLY record holders with regards to this trip.
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Ok the size of Spirit of Portsmouth was 7,5 metres powered by Yamaha 165 hp diesel engine, Bear Grylls´s is 11 metre long with CAT 450 hp. although the size is not the main issue. I had look at the storage cabin on their boat and it is not possible to sleep their as in there are racks to tight down their equipment, on Spirit of Portsmouth they could put over the bow towards the helm canvas to cover from splash and rain. I express my opinion that both teams have achieved their goals of crossing the North Atlantic ocean. Again I feel if you need assistance and the boat is lifted out of waters (Spirit of Porsmouth lifted twice) it had to be credited and therefore not complete record crossing the waters from west to east via Greenland and Iceland. I have had the priveledge to have met and assisted both teams Alan in 1997 and Bear during their staied in Iceland and in my mind they are all my boatfellows and always welcome to Iceland.
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"The Irish fellow I have seen mentioned on the forum is not entitled to any credit as he was cruising in much calmer and easier waters."

If he did it, he's entitled to the credit. Size of boat is quite a large issue, those extra few metres could have made the ride a lot more bearable.
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I’ve bitten my lip about Mr “Bull” Grylls for too long. Whether or not Alan, Jan, Steve and Vic were successful or not in 1997 is not open to different peoples’ interpretations as to what is assisted or unassisted. They did the trip, as with all the trips I have done on Spirit of Cardiff / Jolly Sailor, according to UIM rules - ie the rules of the official international governing body of powerboating. I don’t suppose Bull even knows what the UIM is.

Those rules state that any voyage which requires stops for refuelling and reprovisioning is “assisted”. The only way you can do an “unassisted” passage is by going non-stop without refuelling. As for the business of accepting outside help, it is within the rules, provided that you return to the point where you accepted help in order to continue the passage. This is exactly what happened off Iceland in 1997, and indeed what we did on Spirit of Cardiff last year when the boat was disabled by colliding with a fish farm outside Valletta harbour.

The sad fact is that Bull has no regard for official boating rules, hence his flying a blue ensign when he launched his boat in March, and for flying a white ensign when he arrived at John O’Groats. As far as we know, his boat has never been scrutinised by the RYA for record attempts, and of course the simple fact is that neither the UIM nor Guinness World Records will recognise the Greenland / Iceland route across the Atlantic for a world record. We know - we’ve checked.

I note too that Bull regards much of his route as uncharted for weather. It seems strange, as we had expert weather forecasting all the way across. You just need to get the right people - and you need the experience to judge what’s safe and what isn’t. Bull confesses to coming close to putting out a mayday twice during their crossing. I would suggest that if they came close to it once, that should have been the point at which they ought to have considered the wiseness of carrying on, because they clearly didn’t have the competence. Or perhaps Bull’s record will be a special one for foolhardiness.

That’s not of course to demean their achievement. I know exactly what it felt like, because I’ve done the Atlantic twice already, although sadly, because of Bull Grylls and the BBC’s sloppy journalism (where else have we heard that recently?), I didn’t “make history”.


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Well said, Clive.

Cheers to you and the rest of the crew of the Jolly Sailor for your amazing accomplishments. No one can take that experience away from you.

Will there be a book regarding this latest adventure?
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Nicely put Clive, and not sure if I've said this already or not, but here it is again anyway, well done to you and the other lads. If any of you are ever in my neck of the woods, as much beer as you can drink will be provided.
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