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Old 17 July 2005, 15:33   #21
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You'll have to make your way down to Gimli, Manitoba one year for Islendingadagurinn
It could be a make a northern tour after I get back to Minneapolis from Kentucky end of November. What kind of climate may I expect ?

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Old 17 July 2005, 15:37   #22
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I for one don't have a problem with that at all, provided the 'harvesting' is done compassionately. The main problem with whaling is that your well, whaling! they were here millions of years before us (hopefully will be here millions of years after us too!) they are earth's largest creature and you must admit if you were out in your rib and saw one you'd just have to say 'wow!'
we don't need to eat them, can't we just leave something alone for once?
About the commercial fishing methods, your dead right, thousands of dolphins around my coast are being killed and thrown away as waste.
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You make a valid point about the impressiveness of seeing a live whale from a small boat or the potential of the whale watching industry. Nonetheless the whale watching industry and a whaling industry are not necessarily incompatible. In fact they have more common interests than many may realize.

Believe it or not, there are extremist organizations out there that are vehemently opposed to whale watching because they believe it to be exploitative of the whales, turning them into a 'commodity'.

I've never tried whale meat nor would I go completely out of my way to, but if it were there in front of me I would try it. For a number of cultures, whale meat is traditional to them, and it is not my place to judge those traditions. While I have no particular desire to eat horse, dog or cat meat, I would not judge or interfere with cultures that traditionally do eat those meats.
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Old 17 July 2005, 15:43   #23
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It could be a make a northern tour after I get back to Minneapolis from Kentucky end of November. What kind of climate may I expect ?

Bogi

At the end of November here in Winnpeg, the temperatures would most likey be ranging between -10 C to -30C. It usually doesn't get really cold here until after Christmas. Ribbing is not the greatest at this time of year.
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nice pictures bogi
Yeh, you wait until they are covered with blood and blubber after the flenching knives have been used.
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Old 18 July 2005, 04:39   #25
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Yeh, you wait until they are covered with blood and blubber after the flenching knives have been used.
My thoughts exactly !
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I do not understand commercial fisherman they seem to believe that because they have bought a boat and some nets they have the right to plunder the sea with complete disregard for the future; left to there own devices they would fish the sea out and then moan about how hard their life is
Compare this to a farmer who at least harvests what he sows, a fisherman just takes. I am not saying farmers are perfect but when compared to a fisherman they are streets ahead.

I would have more time for fishermanís views if they put something back into the seas other that discarded tackle Why they do not set up cooperative hatcheries and release fish back into the sea is beyond me Instead they moan about dwindling stocks and fisheries officers not allowing them to catch everything

I do accept that whaling is a traditional occupation for some nations but it is hardly traditional to chase whales in steam ships which have only been around for the last 150 odd years and if it is a national tradition why export the meat why not use the meat at home the short answer to that is that is just another industry a way of making money and should not be viewed as a tradition Des
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some encouraging news......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...18/ixhome.html
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Good news indeed

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The proposal already seems to have the backing of the public after a Lake District survey revealed that 90 per cent of people would be in favour of re-introducing the grey whale to Britain
you mean 10 percent said no?
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I would have more time for (commercial) fishermanís views if they put something back into the seas other that discarded tackle Why they do not set up cooperative hatcheries and release fish back into the sea is beyond me Instead they moan about dwindling stocks and fisheries officers not allowing them to catch everything

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Excellent point. Farmers have to make do with the land they own or lease.

In North America, Sport fisherman (anglers) work actively with government conservation departments to establish and enforce catch limits. Additionally they spend many millions each year restocking the rivers and lakes so that the populations of various fish species increase. Hunters do the same thing with their resources, spending billlions on habitat protection & proactively working with conservation departments to determine limits and enforce them (antipoaching programs & such).

As a result the, various the sportfish & big game species here flourish. Without the efforts of North America's sportfishermen & hunters many of the species that are currently flourishing would be in dire straits. Animal rights organizations have never done anything to improve the survivability of any fish or animal species.

Back to commercial fishing on the oceans, it comes down to greed, lack of accountability & national governing bodies not taking a strong stand. For example, Spain & Portugal have allowed their commercial fisherman to illegally fish off the Grand Banks of Newfoundland with illegal nets for years. Additionally the Canadian government (up until very recently) had been very weak kneed about protecting these regions, not only from foreign poaching but in not properly managing the seal populations as well. The result was a catastrophic loss of the cod fishery.
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prairie tuber thanks for your support, those southerness must pay us a visit and try out our great foods and to experiance 24 hours of daylight during our short summer that brights everything up.

Bogi
I've had some great food in Iceland, although I don't think I will ever try the rotten sharks meat again!

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