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Old 20 October 2012, 11:35   #1
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Speed camera fine

Got a notice of intended blah blah .... was photographed face on at 71 on a 60 section on the A9 whilst overtaking someone on a single section....camera was on the other side of the road ... so my own stupid fault really, but I misjudged how fast the guy was going and needed more speed than I wanted to get by safely before meeting on coming traffic ...and I was towing a small plant trailer .. fortunately my licence is clean.

Firstly, I didnt think face on shots were allowed ? thats why I wasnt so bothered at the time, and its a camera ive been through many times too anyway it doesent seem the case now ... whats the likely points do you guys think ?
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Old 20 October 2012, 11:41   #2
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Ouch!

Single carriageway whilst towing would make it a 50 for you would it not ? May mean more than usual 3 points 60. Overtaking a car doing 60 with a trailer

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Old 20 October 2012, 11:56   #3
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Hate that A9 when I go up to Brora/Helmsdale for a bit of fishing in June. Had on myself 66 in a 50 about 6 years ago at 1-15 am.......Only one other car on the road & I overtook him just as we passed a bloody speed camera!!
Have you tried any of the sites like 'beat the speed trap' etc, they usually give you a fair idea of how to proceed ?
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Single carriageway whilst towing would make it a 50 for you would it not ? May mean more than usual 3 points 60. Overtaking a car doing 60 with a trailer

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I'd say they didn't notice the trailer on camera, so probably best not mention any pic issues with them, shouldn't be any more than 3 points 60,
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Dont assume the ticket is completed correctly.

Follow through this forum and check out what and how it should be written , what is recorded on the ticket word for word, what image is sent, the time period of being sent from speeed day and how dealt with, there is a very high proportion of tickets incorrectly issued and if challenged they are regularly cancelled
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About 75% of tickets challenged in the local authority issued type are upheld for the driver.
Still check police issue fixed penalties as they are not always right, dont assume they know best, a little research has shown how many can be challenged and won

I did spend a lot of time challenging a bus lane ticket and local authority spent a fortune fighting me and lost at a tribunal. All over incorrect proceedures.

Same with a speed camera used to issue a ticket for a number plate issue, was thrown into touch. Yep bad boy
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I'd say they didn't notice the trailer on camera, so probably best not mention any pic issues with them, shouldn't be any more than 3 points 60,
Unfortuantely, it states.. Offence details - Exceed 60 mph Speed limit 'vehicle with trailer' on the offence notice .. sadly with a 4.8 V8 you hardly feel that lot empty behind you
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Do they still hammer you if you go down the road of trying to get out of it on a technicality ?

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Do they still hammer you if you go down the road of trying to get out of it on a technicality ?

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The main issue is to research it before the case is listed for a court case. If issued through local authority cameras then the moment you challenge it , the ticket goes on hold.

If you end up at court and the case is found against you they will add costs and the fine can be increased as far as i know.

The web site I posted is very useful, usually it is best to research your ticket against the rules. If you open a forum question then scan your ticket and remove car number and personal details before loading onto site. You will surprised what the regulars spots. Some are coppers, solicitors and some are just very knowledgeable. Sorry but dont assume the authority has the ticket and process correct. I would warn not to drag time and get stuck into it.

Some tickets are pay the fine and get points, others will be attend court, they may even be an option to not get points and attend a speed awareness input
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I was done recently in my van at Tain, you should know that area, I'm from Brora originally, I was doing 82 in a van that should be doing 50, 300 fine and 4 penalty points, tip of the day, dont speed, I wasnt aware of camera's taking you from the front either, I'd be making enquieries as to their accuracy working in the opposite direction, had I known what I know about lazer guns now I would have argued with the police to at least get a fixed penalty but I think if you go to court and still get found guilty they'll come down harder on you
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The web site I posted is very useful
+1 pepipoo.com is definitely the place to go for anything to do with speeding tickets.
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