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Old 11 March 2006, 14:23   #11
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As far as I know cars with power steering can still be steered without any power or fluid, although itís very heavy. My brother last week lost all the fluid out of his power steering when a pipe burst, he managed to still drive the car home (although his mussels were popping) & most power assisted brakes will work providing you can use both feet.
If you want exciting you want to try a Citroen when it looses all its power fluid as you approach a roundabout at 70mph, extremely heavy steering no brakes (apart from the handbrake) & the suspension drops down onto rubber blocks which gets your eyes bouncing around so much you canít focus on anything.
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Old 11 March 2006, 15:42   #12
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What a total wanker.

Choice of either travelling at "135mph" for miles risking death and destruction for all or one turn of the ignition key and coast to a halt with heavy steering. Not a hard decision to make.

Cars with PAS can still be steered if the engine cuts off, although the steering becomes very heavy. I would have thought it would be an instinctive reaction to switch off immediately.
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Old 11 March 2006, 16:05   #13
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Power assisted steering has most effect at low speeds. At higher speeds, it's easy to steer without it. Austin Montegos used to suffer from PAS failure and were safe, but difficult to drive.

UK supplied Ford Explorers used to suffer from the same problem as this BMW - throttle jammed wide open. There are a number of recorded similar accidents involving Explorers, the least serious being those where the driver had the presence of mind to switch the engine off.

I wouldn't hesitate to turn the engine off in such a situation, but make sure to turn the key one notch only, otherwise the steering lock may engage!

The A1 at Thirsk is straight, dead straight.

What a nob jockey.
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Couldn't agree more - but it's not so much the bloke I am getting at - it's the idiot reporters - the police who advised him and the so called racing driver woman who all said that you would lose control of the steering. as richard says it is only at low speeds - you probably wouldn't even notice if the power steering failed at 70mph!!!
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He needs to drive my Land Rover!

What a dick. Turn the ingnition and coast to a stop. Non brainer.
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Power steering or not, you wouldn't exactly need to fight with the wheel all that much on a motorway hard shoulder, it's hardly 'taking the back doubles' is it!

sounds like a load of bollix.
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UK supplied Ford Explorers used to suffer from the same problem as this BMW - throttle jammed wide open. There are a number of recorded similar accidents involving Explorers, the least serious being those where the driver had the presence of mind to switch the engine off....
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Yeah I bought one of those.. The throttle jammed when I was pulling out onto a large "roundabout" fairly swiftly and then have to slow for traffic lights on the island... only to find the b*****d thing surging forward when I lifted off... quite frightening for a second or two till you realise whats happened... then heavy application of brakes and kill the ignition.. job done... I think a chap in Bristol ended up brown bread in the same circumstances
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Hmmm. Okay, so 135 mph, brakes to 70; afraid to turn off the engine for fear of losing steering and crashing. So instead he continues at 70 and crashes anyway? Kind of a losing proposition here, isn't it? At least he could have slowed more with possibly dodgy steering before hitting something...

Go figure.

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