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Old 02 May 2006, 19:12   #11
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No-one in a yacht with any sense goes anywhere near Anvil point unless they have fairly good local knowledge.
and certainly not in a SW 5-6

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Old 02 May 2006, 19:27   #12
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I notice the RNLI sib had a line atatched to the bow , I can't quite work out what its conected to but seemed to be taking some strain . I guess they deployed a drogue on a long line then backed in, or would it be an anchor .

I have heard of this being used before where tension is built up on the line with the motor astern then they shut the throttle and bopat is pulled out by the bow helping to prevent it flipping over waves .

have I got this right , as it seems to me it would be very easy to run over the line on the way out and foul the prop.
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Old 02 May 2006, 19:59   #13
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No-one in a yacht with any sense goes anywhere near Anvil point unless they have fairly good local knowledge.
and certainly not in a SW 5-6

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There can also be some interesting tidal races at Anvil Point as well. How many times have you heard the phrase "I didn't get where I am today by ...." from those who've got all the gear but no idea.

Now I'm not trying to be judgemental, but if the press reports are to be believed we can only be thankful that there was no loss of life, due to lack of experience and education.

I guess it serves to remind us all to encourage those who are new on the sea to get as much training as possible. Thanks also to the RNLI and coastguard crews that risk their lives for people who are reckless with their own
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I hate to judge these things but it seems like a clear case of more money than sense
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I notice the RNLI sib had a line atatched to the bow , I can't quite work out what its conected to but seemed to be taking some strain . I guess they deployed a drogue on a long line then backed in, or would it be an anchor .

I have heard of this being used before where tension is built up on the line with the motor astern then they shut the throttle and bopat is pulled out by the bow helping to prevent it flipping over waves .

have I got this right , as it seems to me it would be very easy to run over the line on the way out and foul the prop.
The RNLI boats have a winch in front of the console - they drop anchor as you say and reverse into the rocks in dodgy situations. Great idea but how the hell do you get into the boat then??? It is ok if they come past you so you can get in the side but in this case the woman was right not to jump!!!
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Veering down

The method used by the RNLI to get close in to rocks is called veering down. They drop the anchor fair distance off shore and put the engine in reverse. The tension is kept on the anchor and the line is slowly let out and the boat inches closer to the rocks. As soon as the helm kills the power the boat springs back out towards the anchor due to the elasticity in the rope!

You have a great amount of control over the positioning of the boat as by turning the engine the boat will swing. Once swung to the side and the power is released the boat will swing back to the central position and towards the anchor.

It is a tried and tested technique which is very successful when competently used. Its much better than steaming in towards a rock face and turning at the right moment in the hope the stranded person can jump in at the same time as your trying to turn into a possible breaking wave!

Yes it has its dangers, the revs have to be high to keep the boat in the right position but if the casualty was to fall in the water you'd kill the power and would instantly be sprung back out. It is only really successful with lots of power as this increases the stretch of the rope.

Beware though when using a paddle to check the depth of water you don't hit it with a prop...splinters everywhere! (wasn't me holding it!)

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the anchor is usually deployed outside the breaking surf or far enough out that it can be safely recovered without running the risk of being flipped or washed back in to the rocks.
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