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Old 21 June 2007, 07:43   #11
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For most of the last decade we had the cheapest pre-tax petrol prices in the western world.
I know - and yet some people still blame the oil companies for the high prices. If I was them I would have a sign up at every petrol station showing the before tax price - maybe then people would realise what our glorious leaders are doing to us!!!
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It's refreshing to see a number of other people here also see recognize this whole global warming alarmism insanity for what it is - a power seizing, money grubbing scam perpetrated by a few social engineering political elites who have brainwashed a sizeable population of sheeple.
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Old 21 June 2007, 09:40   #14
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I like the word sheeple. That's going in my personal dictionary.
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I also try and do 'my bit' where I can and I have taught my daughter what can and can't be recycled. I try to not make unnecessary journeys - we eat organic food, I try to switch off unncessary stuff. However, I drive a 4x4, another car and now have a RIB.

As I understand - but I am not an expert - most of the pollution with regards a car is during its manufacture, therefore buying an eco-friendly car which on average only lasts 6 years produces more pollution than my Series 1 Disco - although to be fair I only get 260 miles to 80 litres of fuel.

Why can't they find a petrol-free solution that can be used in my petrol car now that will not cost me me thousands to have adapted and will help the environment. If they are serious about Global Warming, help people to become more environmentally friendly.

Furthermore, governments should target the largest polluters. When driving through any City or Town, how many buildings have all their lights on - all night. Do China really need all these power stations - if so, why? Does our consumerism create this need and therefore do we need to look at making companies make products that are upgradeable rather than throw away and start again.

Lastly, then I'll get off my soap box, I remember all the hype about the OZone layer and how this would be the end of the world. Clearly it was a huge problem but now miraculously it is repairing itself.

I can't help wondering whether it is a cycle, and that the earth just does this. Before the last ice-age, where the dinosaurs driving around in 4x4's living in plush houses with power stations? I don't think so.

I'll shut up now ;o)
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First they came for the Pistol Shooters, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Pistol Shooter.
Then they came for the Foxhunters, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Foxhunter.
Then they came for the Smokers, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Smoker.
Then they came for the 4x4 Owners, and I did not speak out
because I was not a 4x4 Owner
Then they came for the Moderate Drinkers, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Drinker.
Then they came for Me
and there was no one left to speak out for Me.
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Listening to people being united against the greatest threat to our planet is great, and i'm not talking about global warming being the biggest threat to our well being, NO! thats 20% reality and 80% tax scam, its the governments their selfs, Where is our democracy? If we all stood up and told this pathetic government that we are not going to take there lies and cheating anymore then they would have no choice but to listen. Democracy is only a word that they use to mislead us people, they the governments have created the modern day terrorist because of all of there ridiculous legislation!, that is a bigger threat to us than global warming and one cheating lier is replacing the other. Gordon brown goes on about education, well the first thing that our children need to know is that this countries leaders are dirty, corrupt, ignorant, pig headed, greedy retards that have no regard for its people and our freedom.
This government have made its people's heart sick, and the fools talk of what a formidable politician that blair was, well the reality is the formidable mess he has created with his legacy.
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Listening to people being united against the greatest threat to our planet is great, and i'm not talking about global warming being the biggest threat to our well being, NO! thats 20% reality and 80% tax scam, its the governments their selfs, Where is our democracy? If we all stood up and told this pathetic government that we are not going to take there lies and cheating anymore then they would have no choice but to listen. Democracy is only a word that they use to mislead us people, they the governments have created the modern day terrorist because of all of there ridiculous legislation!, that is a bigger threat to us than global warming and one cheating lier is replacing the other. Gordon brown goes on about education, well the first thing that our children need to know is that this countries leaders are dirty, corrupt, ignorant, pig headed, greedy retards that have no regard for its people and our freedom.
This government have made its people's heart sick, and the fools talk of what a formidable politician that blair was, well the reality is the formidable mess he has created with his legacy.
You tell um!
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It's refreshing to see a number of other people here also see recognize this whole global warming alarmism insanity for what it is - a power seizing, money grubbing scam perpetrated by a few social engineering political elites who have brainwashed a sizeable population of sheeple.
I like that attitude mate, you can be in my party
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