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Old 28 March 2006, 17:32   #1
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Fishing help needed.

OK - Firstly lets start with explaining I'm a raw beginner here so any replies need to be well explained with no fancy names for things as I wont know what they are.

Secondly - I don't want to be carrying around a fecking great tackle box etc - I'm not taking it too seriously - just want to catch the odd fish for tea.

So far I have had great success with mackerel with a simple hand line with a huge great weight on the line followed by 10ft more line and a simple spoon type spinner on the end. I chuck this over this side till it hits the bottom - then start up the boat and tow it at about 4 knots. Using this technique I have never gone longer than 5 minutes before dumb ass mackerel has jumped on the hook.

However I'm getting bored of eating only mackerel.

I already own a nice little 6'5" Fladden powerstick boat rod - with a multiplier reel. I keep this in a 1.3m rod bag along with a cutting board and a fillet knife and at the moment not a lot else. As i said i don't want to have to carry a tackle box so i want everything i need to fit in the pockets on this bag.

My plan is to troll for mackerel and then cut up the mackerel for use as bait to catch something else.

So what I'm looking for is the simplest rig that I can bait up with strips of mackerel that will catch me something else. I would also like to be able to take the same setup and chuck it over the local harbour wall with the kid sometimes.

Also if anyone knows a good beginners fishing website with diagrams etc - of how to rig and bait your weights and hooks for this type of fishing - i would be very grateful.
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Old 28 March 2006, 18:01   #2
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The simplest rig is where your weight sits on your mainline next a bead and then a swivel. Next attach your trace to the other end of the swivel and make this trace as long or short as you think 6' is a nice mid way point. Stick your hook on the end of this and your away. There are slightly different things you can do with this basic set up like add extra hooks and place colours beads near the hooks etc.

You might like to wind on 20 or 30' of 50lb shock trace on the end of the mainline. This does two things. 1. Doesn't wear so easily and so is great for your weight to run up and down on. 2. When landing that big fish, it gives you a couple of turns on your reel so that you're not so likley to loose your fish. (Most fish are lost on the surface)

Hope this help a bit/bite .
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Old 28 March 2006, 18:06   #3
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Thanks for the reply.

What do I do with it then - tow it - drift with it - stick it on the bottom and wait, ???

I really am that ignorant at this fishing stuff - I blame my old man

Also - what size weight are we talking typically.
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Oh..Stick it on bottom and wait. You can Anchor and have a beer or drift and have a beer . Best to ask around your local fishing tackel shops as to where the best spots are, some even have maps that they've made and photocopied.

When you've found your mark look at the depth finder to where the runoff of a deep gully or rough ground starts. Unless it's sand banks that is.
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Andy,

I am in the same state as Roy 'I'm a raw beginner here so any replies need to be well explained with no fancy names for things as I wont know what they are.'

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rig
mainline
bead
swivel.
trace
hook
30' of 50lb shock trace
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OK, I know what a hook is
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Rig....Is a general name for the whole setup

Mainline.... is the line wound onto your reel

Bead....Is a bead , a little round object with a hole in the middle of it, stops the weight from snagging the knot

Swivel.....Stops the trace from getting all tangled up

Trace......Length of line beteen weight and hook

Shock trace....Is a heavier line than the mainline, as expland it's really a safety measure to stop the weaker mainline from breaking.

Hope that's more clear now.
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I am in the same state as Roy


Im not that bad

I have actually just found quite a usefull website. http://www.seafishingsupplies.co.uk/reference_rigs.php
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Yeh, I've done a search as well http://www.geocities.com/tony2kuk/rigs.html
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Yeh, I've done a search as well http://www.geocities.com/tony2kuk/rigs.html
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thanks andy

These sites are great at explaining these rigs but they don't tell you exactly what to do with them or how much weight to stick on the end.

I think I like the idea of a simple set of mackerel feathers - especially the fact that once you've caught the mackerel - you can then bait up the same hooks with the mackerel and use it to catch whiting etc... (well according to what I've read so far anyway)

my next questions are about technique.

on my boat I guess I just weight up the end of the set of feathers and stick it over the side, but

1. what size weight would i need
2. do i let it sit on the bottom or jig it up and down or put it at whatever depth the fish are on my fish finder or all 3 ???

when at the harbour do I just cast it out and let it lie - or keep it moving or what ???
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