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Old 11 February 2008, 11:34   #1
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Diet Coke in your engine

Only messing about in your engine but you have to read the following:
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexcl...xclusive15.htm
It may just elongate your life. I am sure you will have a different view on "sugar free".
Please dont remove this yet John to "other business" as its too important for all concerned...
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Old 11 February 2008, 12:08   #2
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Please dont remove this yet John to "other business" as its too important for all concerned...
. . . but absolutely nothing to do with engines. Or RIBs.

If anyone is interested in reading more about aspartame and it's alleged effects then Google will come up with plenty to keep you occupied.

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Old 11 February 2008, 12:46   #3
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At least it doesn't have SUGAR in it!
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I suggest you join the campaign against dihydrogen monoxide. It's a killer as well!

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Only messing about in your engine but you have to read the following:
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexcl...xclusive15.htm
It may just elongate your life. I am sure you will have a different view on "sugar free".
Please dont remove this yet John to "other business" as its too important for all concerned...
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To be honest I agree - another one to watch is E211 - a preservative also found in diet drinks. It made me very ill for a while until I realised what was causing it. i honestly think the reason there are so many cases of Asthma these days is because of these 2 substances.

Ok it may have nothing to do with RIBs but I thought that was what "other stuff" was all about - seems to fit the bill ok!!!

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Sorry for further propogating this thread John...
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- another one to watch is E211 - a preservative also found in diet drinks.
You are implying that E211 (sodium benzoate) is a preservative used predominantly in "diet drinks" - but it is not - it is used in all sorts of drinks and foods as a preservative including "full fat" varients of most carbonated drinks as well as many fruit juices as well as some foods.

In the interests of balance sodium benzoate occurs naturally in a number of fruits - and even in the human body (without an external source of benzoate).

It has been added to drinks as a preservative for about 100 years.
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Once again you just have to pick holes.........

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...th-450593.html

Maybe you should read up on the subject!!!

I agree it is not ONLY used in "diet" drinks but - generally speaking - the less sugar a drink has the more E211 it will contain. For example good old Coke has no E211 but reduced sugar versions do - as does the new strange trend in flavoured water.

It has been known for quite some time that E211 mixed with ascorbic acid(vit c)releases benzine - not a good product to have in your drink!!!

You mention it occurs in plants as if that makes it ok - remember heroin/opium and ricin are also plant based - and you have HCL in your stomach...........
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- I can't find any recent peer reviewed publication on the subject by Prof Piper. His own website also makes no particular mention of it. Perhaps we are talking about 8 year old research Piper did - which was performed on yeast cells not human cells and which openly admitted that only the gastrointestinal tract actually encounters sodium benzoate - since it is metabolised to other products which weren't in his study. How a compound only in the gastrointestinal tract causes altzimers is a mystery.
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good old Coke has no E211
"full fat" Coke and Pepsi don't contain E211, because it is such an inhospitable environment little will grow.
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It has been known for quite some time that E211 mixed with ascorbic acid(vit c)releases benzine - not a good product to have in your drink!!!
yes - benzene is a product of a reaction between ascorbic acid and benzoates, but that in itself doesn't make benzoate unsafe.
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Ok it may have nothing to do with RIBs but I thought that was what "other stuff" was all about - seems to fit the bill ok!!!
That's why I moved it here from the "Engines" section despite Aiden's request no to . . .

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