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Old 21 April 2007, 15:55   #11
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What Human rights would be breached? please
Have a look at the European Convention on Human Rights:

http://www.hri.org/docs/ECHR50.html

Article 3 is what would be claimed under.

"No one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

The ECHR is applied in the UK by the Human Rights Act 1998

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...ilesize=110022

Not saying I agree it is a breach of human rights... but it would be very easy to argue in a court.

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So what is degrading about the "voluntary work on community projects in the environment" I think it's a top idea.

The girlfirend worked as a chef in the prison kitchen it certainly killed off any fear I had about prison life, still wouldn't fancy it myself though.
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That part... nothing, I think it's a good idea as well.

In fact, there is a specific exemption in the ECHR to permit forced labour in the context of penal servitude.

It's more - inappropriate clothing for the environment, inappropriate living accommodation, unsanitary conditions.

Ultimately, these people are still humans too.

Why do we get upset at the sight of little African children running around in barely any clothing? Yet, in this context it's acceptable for prisoners to be doing the same?

I'm not saying that they should be given Nike trainers and so forth... but if they are living in outside accommodation (tents), then protection from the elements is required - otherwise in 20 years, there will be claims from ex-cons that the prison caused their skin cancer.

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OK, thats enough thanks. I think I've made it quite clear that there are more appropriate places than RIBnet for this sort of discussion.

Limey Linda, take it somewhere else please.

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