Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
Codders if you have a crash in a defender to my knowledge it has bugger all crumple zone! So the car may look solidly built & come off after a crash looking better than a car with a good crumple zone but I know which I would prefer to be in! As for air bags again great tacking one hell of an impact away from the occupants!
10 years ago driving down a Jill carriageway a Nissan Torrano came across the central reservation & ended coming at us sideways!
We hit him in the back wheel arch & spun him around so he then hit my drivers side, I walked away having a air bag wife had broken solder coursed by the seat belt, but it did save her life!
My wife's new car was trashed but it did its job (was only 2 weeks old!) the bonnet taking lots of energy out of the collision & the interior staying relatively in tacked.
It has a 5 star rating by NCAP which I think we proved right!
You are missing the point entirely which is what annoys me so much about NCAP. A 5 star in a small car is not the same as even a 2 star in a big one.
The test is a car being slammed into a concrete barrier. Mass plays a huge part. That's why the Smart car does so well. As you said the Defender has bugger all in the way of crumple zones so does very badly.
Not many accidents are into concrete barrier though - most involve one car hitting another. The Defender may not have crumple zones of it's own but it uses the other car as a giant crumple zone.
I have read of so many accidents where a Land Rover is in collision with a normal car - often the people in the LR have minor injuries whilst all the people in the other car are killed.
I saw an Army Land Rover go into the back of a Pug 306 at about 25mph. The Land Rover literally only had a dented bumper. If there had been anyone on the back seat of the Pug they would have been killed.