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Old 05 June 2007, 17:36   #1
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A Foreign View of Britain

Over here in Canada, one of national news magazines is Macleans. There was an article in this week's edition which I read at noon today, and it made me think of my Rib.net friends. I frequently read of your concerns of your political leadership and the general direction your country is heading. I thought you might find this article of interest as it represents one outsiders view...

Incidently, we are bombarded by US media here in Canada, and the frequent observation is that the US is following much the same route. Sadly, I'm not sure Canada is far behind, although I think we benefit from being able to observe the results of a neo-conservative government to our south... Of course, one might argue that we have a similar one here, but it is kept in check by virtue of a minority government!

Here's the link:

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?c..._106150_106150
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Old 05 June 2007, 19:18   #2
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Thanks for the concern STOO

Firstly I see that the article is as ignorant about BRITAIN as most foreign publications. There is more to Britain than just England - Wales, Scotland and Northen Ireland are also part of the same country!!!

I agree with many of the points but they need to be taken into perspective. Compared to the US for example I sometimes think things aren't so bad after all. At least our Police aren't as bad as the Yank ones - you don't get tasered for being a bit slow getting out of your car - yet......

When they say about child poverty they apply different scales for different countries. I have lived in some very poor countries and have seen people living in carboard shacks without even food to eat and no medical help when needed. That is poverty. In the UK even the poorest kids still have Playstations and Nike/Reebok trainers etc.

i always used to be so proud of living in Britain. Now I hate what Blair and his cronies have done. My best mate moves to Perth/Australia in September - another friend is going to New Zealand - another lives about 100 miles from you - they have all said they are going because of what Britain has turned into.

The biggest evil is the destruction of our civil liberties and the fear that has been instilled in the population so that kids are no longer allowed out to play. Blair has turned neighbour against neighbour and petty croimes are now more important than major ones.

Shoplifting now carries an on the spot £80 fine. Put you rubbish out a day early and you get fined £100 - something very wrong somewhere.

It seems to me the decent people are all leaving and what is left???

Blair and Bush have just scored another major success - Maggie and Reagan brought about the end of the Cold War - they are starting a new one!!!
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Thanks for the concern STOO

Firstly I see that the article is as ignorant about BRITAIN as most foreign publications. There is more to Britain than just England - Wales, Scotland and Northen Ireland are also part of the same country!!!

I agree with many of the points but they need to be taken into perspective. Compared to the US for example I sometimes think things aren't so bad after all. At least our Police aren't as bad as the Yank ones - you don't get tasered for being a bit slow getting out of your car - yet......

When they say about child poverty they apply different scales for different countries. I have lived in some very poor countries and have seen people living in carboard shacks without even food to eat and no medical help when needed. That is poverty. In the UK even the poorest kids still have Playstations and Nike/Reebok trainers etc.

i always used to be so proud of living in Britain. Now I hate what Blair and his cronies have done. My best mate moves to Perth/Australia in September - another friend is going to New Zealand - another lives about 100 miles from you - they have all said they are going because of what Britain has turned into.

The biggest evil is the destruction of our civil liberties and the fear that has been instilled in the population so that kids are no longer allowed out to play. Blair has turned neighbour against neighbour and petty croimes are now more important than major ones.

Shoplifting now carries an on the spot £80 fine. Put you rubbish out a day early and you get fined £100 - something very wrong somewhere.

It seems to me the decent people are all leaving and what is left???

Blair and Bush have just scored another major success - Maggie and Reagan brought about the end of the Cold War - they are starting a new one!!!

Here-Here 100%,
There is a lot more i could add to that but you covered most points, current UK goverment.....in my opinion CRAP bring back Maggie, but im sure many will dissagree
But im still proud to be BRITISH & wouldent change that for anything or anyone im just hopeing the next goverment is better...we can all hope cant we....
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Thanks for the concern STOO
I trust you folks appreciate that I was only passing this along for your interest. I purposely avoided commenting simply because I haven't been over there since I was 13 years old...
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Thanks for the concern STOO

Firstly I see that the article is as ignorant about BRITAIN as most foreign publications. There is more to Britain than just England - Wales, Scotland and Northen Ireland are also part of the same country!!!

I agree with many of the points but they need to be taken into perspective. Compared to the US for example I sometimes think things aren't so bad after all. At least our Police aren't as bad as the Yank ones - you don't get tasered for being a bit slow getting out of your car - yet......

When they say about child poverty they apply different scales for different countries. I have lived in some very poor countries and have seen people living in carboard shacks without even food to eat and no medical help when needed. That is poverty. In the UK even the poorest kids still have Playstations and Nike/Reebok trainers etc.

i always used to be so proud of living in Britain. Now I hate what Blair and his cronies have done. My best mate moves to Perth/Australia in September - another friend is going to New Zealand - another lives about 100 miles from you - they have all said they are going because of what Britain has turned into.

The biggest evil is the destruction of our civil liberties and the fear that has been instilled in the population so that kids are no longer allowed out to play. Blair has turned neighbour against neighbour and petty croimes are now more important than major ones.

Shoplifting now carries an on the spot £80 fine. Put you rubbish out a day early and you get fined £100 - something very wrong somewhere.

It seems to me the decent people are all leaving and what is left???

Blair and Bush have just scored another major success - Maggie and Reagan brought about the end of the Cold War - they are starting a new one!!!
Hey Cod, you forgot Southern Ireland, if there is a North of Ireland there must necessarily be a South no?
If things get too bad for you over there we could probably squeeze you and your rib in over here... lots of room on these Great Lakes right Stoo?
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Hey Cod, you forgot Southern Ireland, if there is a North of Ireland there must necessarily be a South no?
There is.. but I believe it's just regular old "Ireland"...

And of course we can fit Cod in over here... I'm just not sure it's any better!
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I could think of a lot worse places to live than the Great Lakes - and I LOVE snow!!!

The reason I said Northern Ireland was because the rest of the Irish would never admit to being anything to do with Britain. Then again we seem to have most of their gyppos over here!!!
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that article points out just about all of the problems with England I can think of (and the stuff that annoys me most about this government), but it only highlights the negative sides to living here with nasty looking statistics. I'd hate to think what people reading that from outside the uk imagine it's like to live here!
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that article points out just about all of the problems with England I can think of (and the stuff that annoys me most about this government), but it only highlights the negative sides to living here with nasty looking statistics. I'd hate to think what people reading that from outside the uk imagine it's like to live here!
It's NOT just England - it happens to effect the rest of the UK as well...........
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that article points out just about all of the problems with England I can think of (and the stuff that annoys me most about this government), but it only highlights the negative sides to living here with nasty looking statistics. I'd hate to think what people reading that from outside the uk imagine it's like to live here!
Maybe somebody could list some positive points of living in this country !

But your not allowed to say the fact that we are surrounded by lots of RIB friendly water.
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