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Old 28 April 2004, 18:30   #11
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i like them as you hear a nice clunk when going into neutral, which is heaven to an instructor, agree with John dominant hand for throttle control the only problem with topmount throttles is,one no neutral lock and two where to put them, i dont like them on teaching boats as first timers have a habit of crashing the gears, but they are good for leisure users but a bugger when they go wrong.
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Oh yes they do, the detente is definately there on my Vetus top mount as was on the Quicksilver commander throttle. Neutral is normally selected by pressing a button in to dis-engage the gears enabling the revs to be raised for stating for example.

"but a bugger when they go wrong" My top mount can be fully accessed from inside the console without undoing any bolts, can't think of anything simplier.

If there isn't room on a jockey console for top mount then put a side mount on it. Its when I drive other ribs I suddenly realise how much better a decent quality throttle can be.

Agree that in big seas the throttle is more important than the steering and yes nice when a novice crashes through your gearbox or doesn't use enough force and you hear the dog clutches grinding against each other. still all part of the fun being an instructor.

Latest incident by the way was whilst giving the "airline type brief" on lifejackets and "if you pull this toggle the jacket will inflate" a student did just that! any funnily enough it did, much to the amusement of everyone on the jetty! one way of inspiring student confidence in your kit I suppose.

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Old 29 April 2004, 02:46   #12
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oops sorry Pete
im talking purely from my experience on the different boats i have taught on
i still don,t like em, some dont have a neutral lock like the side mounts and they are a bugger
on one rib i used to drive you could never get the neutral spot ( mind you it was an old rib )and we had to keep sending it back to Power plus bloody night mare re the dog clutch
find it don't grind it after a couple of goes and they are shown what to do
i dont find it a problem, i am a fan of EDS though on bigger boats finger tip control
great for manouvering , re the lifekackets you always get one don't you i think it happened twice last year the look on their faces when it goes off
always makes me laugh
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Old 29 April 2004, 05:09   #13
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Tim, yes the detente on my Pacific was worn out (22 years of service) when we bought her so replaced the control box after Wave went from fwd to reverse in one go but the new control box is so much better.

What is EDS ?

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Hi Pete
its for that reason that i am not a fan ,no real warning as to when they are on the way out, we got rid of the rib in the end, its all about choice really
as to what you have and where you put things, side mounts with the neutral
lock in my opinion are great for teaching.EDS electronic drive system you will see them on the FAIRLINE NIMBUS, CRANCHI, WINDY and so, on basicaly its computerised throttle control( one of the engineers on here could explain it better)
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If the the boat has side by side seating, especially if the dash is fairly vertical, throttle on the opposite side to the passenger. It is easy to catch the lever with clothing or an awkward movement. I did this whilst on an unfamiliar boat. Luckily everyone was hanging on because my sleeve caught and applied full throttle.
Now, if you want dominant hand, which I agree with, and freedom from accidental throttle application, this will set the side of the boat on which you sit as a driver. An early decision has to be made when ordering a boat.
All you folk who sit in line have more freedom, but you'll need to make sure you know if you've lost your passenger.
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