Transom ladder projects below hull

[Uh Oh]

I want to fit a narrow transom ladder. A stainless steel fold up bolted on type. I've measured the transom and when the ladder is fitted and folded up, one of the legs, nearest the tube, will project down below the bottom of the hull by about 25mm. Because the hull has a slight V shape.

Im hoping this doesn't turn out to be a daft question and embarrass myself

Do any of you think this might be a problem please?

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Uh Oh

I want to fit a narrow transom ladder. A stainless steel fold up bolted on type. I've measured the transom and when the ladder is fitted and folded up, one of the legs, nearest the tube, will project down below the bottom of the hull by about 25mm. Because the hull has a slight V shape.



Im hoping this doesn't turn out to be a daft question and embarrass myself



Do any of you think this might be a problem please?

Drag wise it shouldn’t be a problem. What you might get, is spray thrown up from where it’s in contact with the wake. Is it near any transducers, speed, sonar etc? If so it may cause issues. Is there no way to raise the ladder or alter the leg to eliminate the fouling? Have you checked it won’t foul the engine in all trim/tilt/lock to lock positions?

[Uh Oh]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Drag wise it shouldn’t be a problem. What you might get, is spray thrown up from where it’s in contact with the wake. Is it near any transducers, speed, sonar etc? If so it may cause issues. Is there no way to raise the ladder or alter the leg to eliminate the fouling? Have you checked it won’t foul the engine in all trim/tilt/lock to lock positions?

Thank you Dave. I might be able to alter it. But I won't really know until I've bought it. There's only so much you can glean from a photo. I'm planning on fitting a transducer but on the other side of the outboard. I've asked the seller for the distance it stands off the transom so I can check it doesnt interfere with the outboard in anyway, as you say.

[_monkey]

Why not try a different ladder, I used this on my Zodiac:


https://www.batsystem.se/en/products/but32/

[paintman]

Any link to a pic of the item?

[Uh Oh]

Originally Posted by _monkey

Why not try a different ladder, I used this on my Zodiac:


https://www.batsystem.se/en/products/but32/

Thank you. The link doesn't seem to work? Can you help please?

[_monkey]

Sure, try this https://www.batsystem.se/en/products/but32/

[Uh Oh]

Originally Posted by _monkey

Sure, try this https://www.batsystem.se/en/products/but32/

thank you. I assume it folds up and you can secure it against the A frame.
Are the pads stuck to the transom or the ladder please?

[_monkey]

This is the smaller version, but the pic shows the triangular bracket which bolts to the transom. The ladder rotates about the top bar and canbe swung up over the transom. It's a simple design and worked well.

When I changed boats I fitted another Batsystems ladder - quality gear.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Uh Oh

Thank you Dave. I might be able to alter it. But I won't really know until I've bought it. There's only so much you can glean from a photo. I'm planning on fitting a transducer but on the other side of the outboard. I've asked the seller for the distance it stands off the transom so I can check it doesnt interfere with the outboard in anyway, as you say.

How often are you planning to enter/exit the water via the ladder? It may be more trouble than it’s worth. I made a ladder to hang over the side of the tube for the rare occasions that we swim off the boat. If you’re intending to add a sounder transducer, these fit on the Stbd side of the transom (assuming you have a conventional rh rotation prop) so the ladder will need to go on the port side. There’s more than one way to skin a cat.[emoji6] look at the individual flip up steps.

https://www.gsproducts.co.uk/stainle...xoC_xkQAvD_BwE

[Uh Oh]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

How often are you planning to enter/exit the water via the ladder? It may be more trouble than it’s worth. I made a ladder to hang over the side of the tube for the rare occasions that we swim off the boat. If you’re intending to add a sounder transducer, these fit on the Stbd side of the transom (assuming you have a conventional rh rotation prop) so the ladder will need to go on the port side. There’s more than one way to skin a cat.[emoji6] look at the individual flip up steps.

https://www.gsproducts.co.uk/stainle...xoC_xkQAvD_BwE

Thank you. Thd link doesn't work for me. Can you help please?

[Uh Oh]

Originally Posted by _monkey

This is the smaller version, but the pic shows the triangular bracket which bolts to the transom. The ladder rotates about the top bar and canbe swung up over the transom. It's a simple design and worked well.

When I changed boats I fitted another Batsystems ladder - quality gear.

Thank you. Really helpful and grateful for the recommendation.

[beerbelly]

Originally Posted by Uh Oh

Thank you. Thd link doesn't work for me. Can you help please?

i have a flip up step ideal for where space is limited

[smallribber]

Have you used that flip up step to actually get in/on the boat from the water. Unless there is a foot step below the hull unless you are very thin and fit it is very difficult getting on. That is why ladders flip down.

[Uh Oh]

Originally Posted by beerbelly

i have a flip up step ideal for where space is limited

Thank you. Given my age and agility I think I might struggle with that. But I like it as its so neat and unobtrusive.

[jeffstevens763@g]

£60 from marine scene if that helps there is one i think four step folds vertical if you need it

[beerbelly]

i find ladders to be awkward to use as they usually try to go under the boat when you put any weight on them with the flip step the idea is left foot on the av plate and then right foot on the step grab the pole and step up. not tried it yet time will tell

[_monkey]

Originally Posted by beerbelly

i find ladders to be awkward to use as they usually try to go under the boat when you put any weight on them with the flip step the idea is left foot on the av plate and then right foot on the step grab the pole and step up. not tried it yet time will tell

Agreed that the type which go under the boat should be avoided.

I found that the ss flip up steps are OK for emergency use, but not great if you need to exit the water via the transom on a regular basis. They are a standard fit on Ballistics and I replaced with a traditional ladder because I expected it to get lots of use.

If transom space is limited, has the OP considered the type attached to the tubes?

[paintman]

As per jeffstevens post. This on my dory.
8" wide.

In the last pic with it up you may have issues with it limiting the movement of the engine. I have a good 8" clearance between ladder & engine with engine on full lock. It sticks out about 11" in this position.
The bungee is to hold the support/stand-off legs up - you could probably achieve the same by nipping up their bolts a bit more.

I normally run with it folded in half as in pic 2. Bottom is just above the bottom of the hull. Folded in half highest (top of its bracket bolted to transom) to lowest point is 12".
(the white bit you can see on the anti-foul is where the fishfinder transponder fits. I take it off & use it on Rutland & Pitsford hire boats during the autumn/winter)

[jeffstevens763@g]

As paintman says I nipped the bolts up stays where you want it I too put a bungee on just in case