Training vs Experience

[Louise]

Originally Posted by Louise

Now I'm sure plenty of us may display one or two of these characteristics but put them all together and is it any wonder that we don't know what to believe?!

I rest my case.

[codspawn]

Originally Posted by Son Of Cod

Codspawn is feebly attempting to gain credibility by cashing in on his membership of our illustrious family - I happen to recall when he was cast out as a heretical unbeliever when he questioned Dad's claim to have invented breadsticks, and been the first Welsh person to wear safety headgear.

Go back to Cardiff boyo - you're not needed here!

Just cos you were the first born does not give you the right to push me aside and bring up my misspent youth and all the family jokes at my expense. I have changed now and I do respect all my father does and says and I aspire to reach the enviable heights you have both attained. Give a youngun a chance.....please...

[Son Of Cod]

Leave Dad alone you doubting buggers!

Originally Posted by Louise

Q. You have been a member of the forum for eighteen months yet (as far as we know), in spite of our invitation, you have not met any other person from the forum.
A. He moves in mysterious ways

Q. You make out that you have expert knowledge of several subjects yet at times seem to lack knowledge of some basic concepts of those subjects.
A. Omnipotence can be draining

Q. You hide your identity behind a silly pseudonym and by not posting any pictures which include yourself.
A. It actually is Dad's name.

Q. You post at some very strange times when most of us are tucked up in bed.
A. Nobody's really interested in when most of you happen to be in bed Louise - keep that sort of Protestant behaviour to yourself!

Q. You become evasive when asked to provide more specific information.
A. Can you be more specific about evasion?

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Louise

I rest my case.

Thank God for that!!!

[Louise]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Thank God for that!!!

Have I got you worried?

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Louise

Have I got you worried?

Terribly - you have exposed me as a liar and a cheat and life just isn't worth living any more - good bye!!!

[Louise]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Terribly - you have exposed me as a liar and a cheat

Liars and cheats usually expose themselves in the end.

[Hugh Jardon]

poor old codders has had a bit of a "battering" on this thread today

tomorrow is another day

[Nate]

"poor old codders has had a bit of a "battering" on this thread today"

Nice one Chris!

p.s. was it your old man who wrote that book about Fly Fishing?

[ADS]

This thread is a waste of server space! Has everyone not got anything better to do than discuss whether Codders is a liar or not!

[Hugh Jardon]

Originally Posted by Nate

"poor old codders has had a bit of a "battering" on this thread today"

Nice one Chris!

p.s. was it your old man who wrote that book about Fly Fishing?

wish it was, might not have had to work for a living then....

ps i am from taunton so i know the area well

[Louise]

Originally Posted by ADS

Has everyone not got anything better to do than discuss whether Codders is a liar or not!

I haven't! Oh, apart from watching TV now Richard and Judy are on.

Edit: Damn! Just realised they're not on for another half hour! So let the fun and games continue!

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by ADS

This thread is a waste of server space! Has everyone not got anything better to do than discuss whether Codders is a liar or not!

Not really until 5 then it’s off down the boat for a bit of advanced polishing. Des

[Matt Riley]

Back to topic. Well, I was just reading about the venturer search and rescue teams. Found this on their website.

"Congratulations must go to 16year old Aimee Smith who was the first female to gain her RYA Level 2 Power Boat Licence.

This qualifies her as a Coxswain for the Venturers Search and Rescues 9 Meter RIB "Steadfast Venture".

Now, I'm nearly 18 and have about 3 years experience and 250 hours under my belt (most of it being soaked running rescue in commandoes and 5m ribs), but I wouldn't dream of being made a crewmember of an ILB let alone a cox. I'm guessing that the girls don't even have my very limited experience. Hmmm... put that into context with my sailing club which paid for me to do RYA safety boat and also demand first aid tickets before driving a club rescue boat, and it doesn't look very good on their part considering that normally its the 9m ILB coxwains which should rescue the amateur rescue guys.

Now I have nothing but respect for the RNLI guys, especially those who are part of the local boating community. It makes them a really good resource.

GAFIRS are also great. I was at a BCU lifeguards convention with a few of the guys and their chairman and they seem to really know their stuff. They seem to be the ones that need a little more support than the RNLI at the moment because of their new boat.

WRT Training, I firmly believe that training =>consolidation =>assessment/certification => experience is the most effective cycle to ensure that you are learning as well as is possible. I like to think of decent quality instruction as a way of minimising those potentially dangerous and definitely embarassing mistakes by learning from someone who has already made them.

We must also remember that the PBII is designed to give a safe intro to the sport, and it is important not to overvalue it, as the above organisation seems to have done.

Oh, IMHO Codders does have a point about how a 9m cabin RIB, for instance, will cope with the odd mistake when driving through swell/waves much better than the SR4.7 which I learnt rough water handling in, and so you learn a lot quicker not to make mistakes in a boat like that. I would suggest that the same principle does not extend as far down as his new, very nice SIB though.

Regards,

Matt

[Chopppywaters]

Originally Posted by Chris Hartley

Experience is good, training is sharing the experience learnt and gained by others.

no matter how experienced a person might be in some waters i suspect they will need training on some of the latest techniques, technologies and equipment so the two will always go hand in hand.

hhahahhaha so lemme get this straight....the Ocean is like electronics, it keeps changing and new things more useful things evolve out of it. I dont think so! the same person that could ride threw the worst storms 30 yrs ago can do it today even better. Not because they went and bought a 50000 dollar autopilot or something, its because they have expierence and thats all that really matters. Its like saying ive been boating all my life but im still not good enough because i have never taken a training course.

[Jklingel]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Being President of the United States of America is in George W Bush's family history, but it doesn't necessarily make him good at it.

I hope this quote thing works out as planned.....
••• RICHARD: Trust me on this one; I voted for the guy the first time around, too. What you said is very flattering for old George W; actually, he is real, real bad at it. No, I am not a Democrat.
IMHO, good training is where it is. Genes don't make you much of anything if you don't know Jack Stink about what you are doing.

[hard1]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Silly pseudonym??? Of course names like donustina911 - Garfish - hard1 etc are all perfectly sensible - didn't realise we had to be so serious!!!

.

Blimey! Just spotted this! Mr Codswallop! Hard1 is not exactly a psuedonym. It's a play on my surname Hardy. I am Hard by name and Hard by nature. I am variously called Hardup, Hardon or Hard 1, hence the handle. My first name is Keith. never trust a man called Keith.


Hope this clears things up. What is your real name?

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by hard1

Blimey! Just spotted this! Mr Codswallop! Hard1 is not exactly a psuedonym. It's a play on my surname Hardy. I am Hard by name and Hard by nature. I am variously called Hardup, Hardon or Hard 1, hence the handle. My first name is Keith. never trust a man called Keith.


Hope this clears things up. What is your real name?

SPOOOOON

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by codprawn

SPOOOOON

You're ex-directory then?

[codprawn]

No I am not but I would like to keep my private life private - surely that's not too much to ask????