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02 March 2013, 20:06
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Maxi - the advice above above the carabiners was interesting. Maybe a case for a locking crab?
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I have'nt on mine as I think with the Large Diameter Towing eye's I have,and the fact that they are under load on the Back/Top of the Carabiner means I'm confident they should be fine...But Yep ''Belt and Brace's'' is never a Bad idea.
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02 March 2013, 20:11
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I think he meant more that the tow line could engage in one crab while turning and result in Chaos...
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02 March 2013, 20:46
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Originally Posted by Johnscubanut
Get yourself a couple of metres of good polproplylene...
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Polyprop?! The only place for that stuff is for BT to pull cables through pipes .
Towing bridles? I have a ski tow bridle somewhere in the garage, prob. eaten by moths by now.
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02 March 2013, 20:52
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I have a ski tow bridle somewhere in the garage, prob. eaten by moths by now.
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Arr, there's thems wot tows, an' thems wot gets towed.
Looks as 'ow you an' me moite 'ave more in common than we'd loike to admit...
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02 March 2013, 20:59
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Originally Posted by willk
Arr, there's thems wot tows, an' thems wot gets towed.
Looks as 'ow you an' me moite 'ave more in common than we'd loike to admit...
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Look 'ere, I 'ave a problem with you and I agreeing on shit. So, f'k off and start being a twat again!
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02 March 2013, 21:12
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and start being a twat again!
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lol - I've been a twat all day in the "back office" - so no fears there...
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02 March 2013, 21:28
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I've been a twat all day .
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02 March 2013, 21:29
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It's an old tune, I knew you'd know the music...
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02 March 2013, 21:33
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It's an old tune, I knew you'd know the music...
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It starts 'dum dee dum.....' Can't remember the rest, help me out.
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04 March 2013, 08:44
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I did a tow on Saturday, I was moored up on a Bankes Arms buoy enjoying a flask of coffee and and good read of a book and spotted a small boat between training bank and studland beach not moving, had a look through binonculars and didnt see any fishing rods out so had a harder look and spotted tell tale sign of engine trimmed all the way up with cover off it and chap trying to start outboard, knew something was up so went over. Yep dead engine they were just driftting, 2 on board one feeling very sick due to petrol fumes. They did have a radio with them (handheld) so thats one good thing. As they had launched by the small marina on the studland side of the chain ferry I gave them a tow round the training bank and deposited them near the shell bay beach as far as I could get to the beach. They had oars so rowed to the beach and recovered the small rib usuing its wheels (small avon with wheels that tilt up at the back for launching) they then had a short pull to where there car was.
One thing was I nearly got my tow line caught round my prop, im going to replace my tow line with one that floats and put a couple of floats along its line to keep clear of prop.
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04 March 2013, 09:05
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Originally Posted by boristhebold
I did a tow on Saturday, I was moored up on a Bankes Arms buoy enjoying a flask of coffee and and good read of a book and spotted a small boat between training bank and studland beach not moving, had a look through binonculars and didnt see any fishing rods out so had a harder look and spotted tell tale sign of engine trimmed all the way up with cover off it and chap trying to start outboard, knew something was up so went over. Yep dead engine they were just driftting, 2 on board one feeling very sick due to petrol fumes. They did have a radio with them (handheld) so thats one good thing. As they had launched by the small marina on the studland side of the chain ferry I gave them a tow round the training bank and deposited them near the shell bay beach as far as I could get to the beach. They had oars so rowed to the beach and recovered the small rib usuing its wheels (small avon with wheels that tilt up at the back for launching) they then had a short pull to where there car was.
One thing was I nearly got my tow line caught round my prop, im going to replace my tow line with one that floats and put a couple of floats along its line to keep clear of prop.
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Fair Play Boris,Always Good to help people in distress! I've towed a few over the years..and been towed once!
Haveing a made up Bridle (with Floats) is a Good idea...and I think would Benefit any Boaters equipment list.
....Unless of course the Arm Chair Variety
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04 March 2013, 10:34
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Fair Play Boris,Always Good to help people in distress! I've towed a few over the years..and been towed once!
Haveing a made up Bridle (with Floats) is a Good idea...and I think would Benefit any Boaters equipment list.
....Unless of course the Arm Chair Variety
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Aye Matt, certainly came in handy for me up Scotland mate.
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04 March 2013, 11:55
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Then you want to get the engine off!
nope you got me ...what does that mean??
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Either your mind is as twisted as mine and have managed to read a perfect double entendre that everyone (including myself at time of writing!) missed, or, to answer your question:
I was of course referring to you having apparently spliced a permanent piece of cordage between your two towing eyes on the transom, thus putting a "pain to remove" piece of strong rope in the way of engine removal, as may be required for servicing & maintenance reasons.
Admittedly your engine probably doesn't need removed / swapped anything like as often as my collection of museum pieces have done over the last few years......
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04 March 2013, 15:07
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nope you're reading stuff into a post that I didnt say ..
pemanently attached as in always there, never comes off, ready for use .....but not spliced on. Its just part of the boat and we never even think about it until someone asks "whats that for" or we need it in a hurry which is not uncommon round here. Its on with big s/s snap hooks .
The lump that is on the back never come off the boat, if it did a bit of rope would be the least of m'worries even it it was spliced.
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04 March 2013, 18:02
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A couple of my towing bridle setups ,
One I keep onboard for emergencys with yellow floating line & a monkeys fist knot on the end for throwing & the other with a quick release shackle from an old sail ,,
You may find nylon rope is better for the tow line for serious towing a heavy boat as it takes out much if the snatching if the towed boat is going into waves even if its just on the short bridle ,
If you dont have floating line supporting the bridle with some bungee cords from each aft sponson helps keep it away from the prop or engine if you have grab handles fitted or a lifeline you can fasten them off to .
Depending on circumstances If your towing a broken down boat that's at anchor its sometimes easier/ safer to clip the tow onto their anchor line and tow the whole lot than trying to get a towline aboard and then them having to recover their anchor
its also better if you have to cut them loose in an emergency as their anchor should re- deploy when the towlines slipped .
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04 March 2013, 20:14
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Aye Matt, certainly came in handy for me up Scotland mate.
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I seem to remember the BS gang helping you out on Caernarfon bar 1 day
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04 March 2013, 20:31
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I seem to remember the BS gang helping you out on Caernarfon bar 1 day
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Very true my maiden voyage as well, trim sender unit I believe. And last one broken transom saddle and I thought that these Etecs are supposed to be the dogs danglys
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Very true my maiden voyage as well, trim sender unit I believe. And last one broken transom saddle and I thought that these Etecs are supposed to be the dogs danglys
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Aye, the first 2 or 3 times out with any new boat you'll be shaking out the niggles, by the time you've had it in the water half a dozen times, you'll have it all sorted & dialled in. Just a couple of years to go then Mein Kapitan or should that be Rear Admiral
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04 March 2013, 21:02
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Aye, the first 2 or 3 times out with any new boat you'll be shaking out the niggles, by the time you've had it in the water half a dozen times, you'll have it all sorted & dialled in. Just a couple of years to go then Mein Kapitan or should that be Rear Admiral
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More like Rear Admiral P. D.
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05 March 2013, 11:30
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nope you're reading stuff into a post that I didnt say ..
pemanently attached as in always there, never comes off, ready for use .....but not spliced on. Its just part of the boat and we never even think about it until someone asks "whats that for" or we need it in a hurry which is not uncommon round here. Its on with big s/s snap hooks .
The lump that is on the back never come off the boat, if it did a bit of rope would be the least of m'worries even it it was spliced.
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That's what I love about the English Language..... One sentence can be read in so many different ways.
Yes, my bridle is also "permanent" going by that definition.
...and now it's been rebuilt, my rengine should also now be staying put for the forseeable future.
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