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17 April 2013, 16:03
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The number of fake adverts!
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17 April 2013, 16:04
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The number of fake adverts!
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17 April 2013, 16:31
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I would say it is a little over priced 
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17 April 2013, 16:36
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17 April 2013, 16:40
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Maybe not so wise to suggest your advert is a "too good to be true" on a fake listing post - if you want to sell it, however flippant the post it might cause confusion for any interested buyer 
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ www.BoatsandOutboards4Sale.co.uk ~ 07930 421007
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17 April 2013, 17:04
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THIS IS NOT FAKE
Sorted 
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17 April 2013, 17:09
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Cool.
Interested buyers are a rare breed!! Now the sun's out I want to play instead of trying to buy/sell the thing and resided my self to the fact that I may have to wait a while to upgrade.
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27 April 2013, 07:40
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In my mind there's a difference between an ad suggesting a price that's either high or low - and an ad being FAKE.
Why do you think the ads mentioned are fake ?
The guide price different people have on the same boat will differ - and especially depending on whether you're buying or selling. AT the end of the day - it's up to the buyer and seller to agree on a 'fair' price. And I suppose we do have to help innocent buyers from being ripped off - but at the same time we should be careful not to spoil a sale for anybody either - and be careful of people doing so out of malice...
HOWEVER - its a completely different issue to suggest an ad is FAKE - or to post a FAKE ad. I'm an interested buyer - henryfeston - why do you think the ads are fake ?
I have no involvement with the posting of the ads, but I am looking out for a 6 - 7.5 m second hand rib - so any pointers to identifying a fake ad would be good.
In response to boats&outboards point - I fully agree. I saw thomas's post for the Ribtec - which looks like a very nice boat - although I think we would have to find a 'fair' price - but I'm put off by his manipulation here - whether intended in jest or not.
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27 April 2013, 08:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Originally Posted by lc0021
In my mind there's a difference between an ad suggesting a price that's either high or low - and an ad being FAKE.
Why do you think the ads mentioned are fake ?
The guide price different people have on the same boat will differ - and especially depending on whether you're buying or selling. AT the end of the day - it's up to the buyer and seller to agree on a 'fair' price. And I suppose we do have to help innocent buyers from being ripped off - but at the same time we should be careful not to spoil a sale for anybody either - and be careful of people doing so out of malice...
HOWEVER - its a completely different issue to suggest an ad is FAKE - or to post a FAKE ad. I'm an interested buyer - henryfeston - why do you think the ads are fake ?
I have no involvement with the posting of the ads, but I am looking out for a 6 - 7.5 m second hand rib - so any pointers to identifying a fake ad would be good.
In response to boats&outboards point - I fully agree. I saw thomas's post for the Ribtec - which looks like a very nice boat - although I think we would have to find a 'fair' price - but I'm put off by his manipulation here - whether intended in jest or not.
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I think some of them are probably fake too, but the SR4 might be genuine.
Too cheap. WAAAY too cheap.
The usual immediate 'tell' is if the 'seller' offers to deliver it sight unseen and you pay via escrow/ebay or the like. The escrow will be fake, there'll be no boat and you'll never hear from them again.
Don't pay for anything you can't physically stand next to.
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27 April 2013, 08:46
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Gumtree does seem to have its fair share of adverts that have been scammed from else where - it is just an advert site rather than a trading site so buyer beware, as Nos says if you can't hold it don't buy it.
This advert looks right, sounds right, seems way too cheap for an 18 month old boat - I'd not be willing to do anything but turn up at the address, have a cup of tea or use the loo (means he has house access and not selling a boat from some one on holiday) pay a deposit and bank transfer the rest.
Means a littlel bit of an audit trail.
5m R.I.b with 60hp mariner and trailer + many accessories in Devon | Boats, Kayaks & Jet Skis for Sale | Gumtree.com
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27 April 2013, 08:55
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Originally Posted by treerat
Gumtree does seem to have its fair share of adverts that have been scammed from else where - it is just an advert site rather than a trading site so buyer beware, as Nos says if you can't hold it don't buy it.
This advert looks right, sounds right, seems way too cheap for an 18 month old boat - I'd not be willing to do anything but turn up at the address, have a cup of tea or use the loo (means he has house access and not selling a boat from some one on holiday) pay a deposit and bank transfer the rest.
Means a littlel bit of an audit trail.
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I think that's genuine. 1998 motor, and it's a cheap nasty Seapro. One of Bill Highwayman's awful Chinese imports. Kerny's (IIRC) fell to bits.
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27 April 2013, 08:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by treerat
Gumtree does seem to have its fair share of adverts that have been scammed from else where - it is just an advert site rather than a trading site so buyer beware, as Nos says if you can't hold it don't buy it.
This advert looks right, sounds right, seems way too cheap for an 18 month old boat - I'd not be willing to do anything but turn up at the address, have a cup of tea or use the loo (means he has house access and not selling a boat from some one on holiday) pay a deposit and bank transfer the rest.
Means a littlel bit of an audit trail.
5m R.I.b with 60hp mariner and trailer + many accessories in Devon | Boats, Kayaks & Jet Skis for Sale | Gumtree.com |
It's only in Tavistock - can't be far from you why don't you pop over?
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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27 April 2013, 09:04
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Originally Posted by Cookee
It's only in Tavistock - can't be far from you why don't you pop over?
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It's not too far, about 30 minutes. I'll can go past Monday if anyone wants me to go take a look 
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27 April 2013, 09:09
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
I think that's genuine. 1998 motor, and it's a cheap nasty Seapro. One of Bill Highwayman's awful Chinese imports. Kerny's (IIRC) fell to bits.
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I suspect you're correct, but the process and sentiment stioll stands
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27 April 2013, 09:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by treerat
I suspect you're correct, but the process and sentiment stioll stands |
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27 April 2013, 09:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lc0021
In my mind there's a difference between an ad suggesting a price that's either high or low - and an ad being FAKE.
Why do you think the ads mentioned are fake ?
The guide price different people have on the same boat will differ - and especially depending on whether you're buying or selling. AT the end of the day - it's up to the buyer and seller to agree on a 'fair' price. And I suppose we do have to help innocent buyers from being ripped off - but at the same time we should be careful not to spoil a sale for anybody either - and be careful of people doing so out of malice...
HOWEVER - its a completely different issue to suggest an ad is FAKE - or to post a FAKE ad. I'm an interested buyer - henryfeston - why do you think the ads are fake ?
I have no involvement with the posting of the ads, but I am looking out for a 6 - 7.5 m second hand rib - so any pointers to identifying a fake ad would be good.
In response to boats&outboards point - I fully agree. I saw thomas's post for the Ribtec - which looks like a very nice boat - although I think we would have to find a 'fair' price - but I'm put off by his manipulation here - whether intended in jest or not.
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next time you pick up a luxury 3.5m jet rib tender for £1500, call me!
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27 April 2013, 10:02
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I saw the xs rib on gum tree, sent an email saying I would like to view and was told viewing was not possible, reported this to gum tree and they sent through a warning email that it was fraudulent, as you all say if it is too good to true it normally is.
There is also an Avon adventurer with a yamaha 4 stroke 115 for £5500, that's on boats and outboards I think or maybe boatshop 24 , be very wary as sent an email and got a scary response that no viewing is possible, boat is buy now. We are lucky to have a forum like this so we can be aware of bad people tricking and running people's lives.
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27 April 2013, 12:28
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The Avon SR4.5 posted is the exact same pictures that was on it in Feb...i did have them saved to my phone till a few weeks ago. i came close to calling it back then, but it was the distance to go collect it that stopped me ??
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27 April 2013, 12:41
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Beware Treespirit3 there are a lot of very nice people on here but some of us ,I mean them can extract the urine a little bit.
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