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Old 29 July 2015, 14:50   #1
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Steering Dilemma.

So after fitting a new A- Frame, LED nav lights and Metz aerial and a couple of new wing-backs I wanted to fit hydraulic steering ( Baystar ) on Imogen but after hadd pointed out to me that the steering wheel would have to come out an extra 6 cm there would be very little room for me to sit.

So if I can't have hydraulic which is the best cable steering I can get ?? appreciate your thoughts and advice on this thanks...

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Old 29 July 2015, 15:28   #2
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Hi Kerny

Why not have a stainless steel or aluminium "Sinker Pot" made up, to sink the hydraulic pump head in to the dash? This would have a flange with a ring of bolts to secure it to the console. The pump head could then just be bolted in to it. My business could make you this quite easily if you have a specific pump in mind. I'm guessing you're looking at one of the seastar pumps?

See attached concept drawings I've just put together..
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Old 29 July 2015, 16:21   #4
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seastar already sell a similar recess adapter (they sell a baystar edition i think), i don't know how much that shiny alum one would be but the seastar part is about 90 quid. i have never looked into the baystar option.




you can also just buy a rear mount kit right off the bat if you prefer-

http://www.seastarsolutions.com/prod...ar-mount-helm/

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The newer Baystar helm is just a rebadged Seastar 1.7 helm so the Seastar recess kit will fit the baystar fine.

I have had Seastar and Baystar for years in all my boats and wouldn't want a boat without nowadays.
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if you want to stick to teleflex (much cheaper) then i liked my old non feedback system.

Teleflex No Feedback Safe T II Boxed Steering Kit

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What a Class looking A Frame. Is that frame made up from bending a straight section of pipe or by welding in the bends? I think I would struggle to get that type of work done this side of the pond. Is it very heavy?

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Ivor, thanks for that and if you can do it cheaper than Seastar / Baystar
I would be interested :thumbup:

Xk59D, thanks for the links and at least now I know that I can still fit a hydraulic system

Phantom, thanks for the clarification :thumbup:
TSM, thanks and yes all done by bending straight pipe, only welding is on the side bars and plates .and at a guess I would say that it weighs about 10 stone at least :thumbup:
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Thats up North. Down here they tend to take the lazy option and use pre fabricated bends to achieve the required angles. As you can imagine this is not as strong as the bending of pipes

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Thats up North. Down here they tend to take the lazy option and use pre fabricated bends to achieve the required angles. As you can imagine this is not as strong as the bending of pipes

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That's a bit too much of a Generalisation...and certainly not true of the A-Frame makers I know this way... Who are amongst the very best anywhere!
At one SS fabricator local to me I recently saw a bespoke 100% handmade cradle/dolly for making/fabricating Alloy Hulls!...i.e an EXACT copy of a widely known proven 7m Fibre glass Hull....of which several have been produced for the defence industry.
Can you imagine the tolerences and precision that requires?
Compared to that an A-frame...ANY A-frame is a complete Doddle !
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The newer Baystar helm is just a rebadged Seastar 1.7 helm so the Seastar recess kit will fit the baystar fine.
Thats good news, but guess the Baystar helm still is 1.4 cu inch, so at least there is a difference in turns lock to lock to the Seastar 1.7?
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Hi Kerny

Why not have a stainless steel or aluminium "Sinker Pot" made up, to sink the hydraulic pump head in to the dash? This would have a flange with a ring of bolts to secure it to the console. The pump head could then just be bolted in to it. My business could make you this quite easily if you have a specific pump in mind. I'm guessing you're looking at one of the seastar pumps?

See attached concept drawings I've just put together..

Hi how much would one of these SS sinker pot cost to make for the bay star helm pump?
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how much room do you need Steve, baystar helm fits fine on my SR4 with plenty of room, but guess I'm a tad more slender than you
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Nice Mr c in that black slimming gear I can barely see you 😄👍 sr4 looks well good


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how much room do you need Steve, baystar helm fits fine on my SR4 with plenty of room, but guess I'm a tad more slender than you
. Looks like you're dash isn't as steep as mine Chris so your steering wheel points more skywards as mine points more towards my belly SR4 looks great btw :thumbup:
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. Looks like you're dash isn't as steep as mine Chris so your steering wheel points more skywards as mine points more towards my belly SR4 looks great btw :thumbup:
best get yourself a SR4 Steve, more smiles per miles
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