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Old 04 April 2011, 10:38   #1
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stainless jockey seats

any one ever seen one of these or heard what there like ?
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you would need some pretty hefty floor anchors to get away with putting that on a deck
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you would need some pretty hefty floor anchors to get away with putting that on a deck
was thinking coach screws are not man enough

best stop messing about get it in the water see if its got the grunt/handling that i like then tube it b4 spending any more on her
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Looks very like the ones that Humber make/use
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Looks very like the ones that Humber make/use

http://www.marinefabrications.co.uk/marine.html
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They look really uncomfortable.

For evey 2" of compression the seat moves, the back will move forwards by at least that if not more.
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I'm guessing the idea is that the spring works to help pivot the seat to absorb the shock of bouncing over a wave? I've tried similar systems and come to the conclusion that (old as they are) my legs and a jockey seat can anticipate and react quicker!!! Might not say that 10 years from now!
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Get the damping wrong on those and in a rough sea Stainless jockeys would be rather useful - in that they'd be 'Wipe Clean'

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They look really uncomfortable.

For evey 2" of compression the seat moves, the back will move forwards by at least that if not more.
You would think so but there was a write up of the Humber version in Rib mag recently and they said the design was a huge improvement on fixed seats fitted on the same boat (same seat but a rigid bar in place of the damper). I'd have thought a heavy landing was a recipe for teeth being left in the wheel but that's not what the review said.
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You would think so but there was a write up of the Humber version in Rib mag recently and they said the design was a huge improvement on fixed seats fitted on the same boat (same seat but a rigid bar in place of the damper). I'd have thought a heavy landing was a recipe for teeth being left in the wheel but that's not what the review said.
Yeh, but that said, we all know that reviews in mags can be biased and not completely independent. If it was that good there would be loads in the market place as this option is quite cheap to make.

I reckon that the only way this type of seat might work is to have it high so that you're almost standing and riding it jockey style with a low slung kidney back support.
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The hinge location is anti-ergonomic.
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It would possibly be good to take some of the shocks and bumps from a short interval low wave height choppy sea, where you are just skipping along on the top, but I think would be worse than a fixed jockey in anything remotely rough. I reckon you'd be constantly pushing yourself backwards along the seat.

When you hit a wave the boat slows down slightly, and your un-tethered weight carries you forward and down.
With this design the front of the seat drops and tips you forward at exactly the same time as the momentum acting on your weight, so youíll slide forwards.
As bog Monster says, thereís a serious risk of a teeth meeting steering wheel scenario, and your legs will be supporting your weight in an unnatural direction/position causng more fatigue than standing over a normal Jockey.

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Yeh, but that said, we all know that reviews in mags can be biased and not completely independent. If it was that good there would be loads in the market place as this option is quite cheap to make.

I reckon that the only way this type of seat might work is to have it high so that you're almost standing and riding it jockey style with a low slung kidney back support.
I agree looking at it on a "common sense" basis the direction of movement looks uncomfortable ... was just saying what I had seen in the mag.

Particularly when stuffing into a wave and suddenly decelerating / being thrown forwards, the last thing you need would seem to be the seat tipping forwards and a big shove in the middle of your back to push you forwards but I suppose it depends how much movement there is in the seat - if the deceleration means you naturally move forwards anyway (so you are not touching the backrest) maybe it works even though it seems like it shouldn't? I have no idea how much range of movement there is in the seat?

However my main concern is being a fat ^%&()d the seat would probably come out of the deck if I landed on it with a few G behind me
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