Seam loose

limeydal · 04 March 2013, 04:57

Have an overlap seam coming loose on my xs550.
After cleaning and prepping, is it best to deflate the tubes to try and get a clamp or similar pressure while the adhesive sets?
Or am I ok just gluing, pressing the seam back and letting it dry?

Worried that the water pressure, at speed stretched it out a bit and it won't sit back tight
cheers Dal

Dave Cowell · 04 March 2013, 07:39

Fix with the tubes inflated, any slight stretch in the fabric can be worked in using a small roller.
Preparation is the key to success with this kind of repair, make sure all old glue has been removed

jyasaki · 04 March 2013, 15:26

Agree with Dave, with an added step of, after gluing, deflating the tube, and rolling the hell out of the seam to firm up the bond.

Unrelated (I think): I've been having problems with the tube-to-hull sealing strip coming loose; was thinking of fairing a bead of caulk to soften the edge and prevent the water pressure from peeling the glue joint. As usual, been thinking about this for some time, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

jky

limeydal · 04 March 2013, 15:33

Thanks both,
will get on it later today.
Got to go find some adhesive first! (not sure wha the local guys have, so may have to order online )

cheers Dal

limeydal · 05 March 2013, 23:21

Bostik 2402 on it's way and shipped out same day by Clavey paddlesports of California. (thanks Engarom for the tip ! )Should be here tomorrow,
cheers Dal

Nick Hearne · 06 March 2013, 12:01

I thought the XS ribs did not have Hypalon tubes & if so you want a different glue!
I think you have Decitext Polyurethane

Ribochet · 06 March 2013, 12:18

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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

I thought the XS ribs did not have Hypalon tubes & if so you want a different glue!
I think you have Decitext Polyurethane

+1 for that - it is my understanding that XS used polyurethane fabric but do offer a hypalon option.

You need to check this out as it makes a big difference

limeydal · 06 March 2013, 15:44

nick,
It does have polyurethane tubes.
I had emailed Laurence at xs ribs (who supplied the boat ) who stated that glue.
You have me worried now !!!

cheers Dal

TomKat · 06 March 2013, 18:40

I had the same issue with seams on my boat, where the cones meet the tubes, noticed on my mates new Humber that they have triangular reinforcing pieces laid on top of these areas and got a local tube repair guy to do this to my boat. Very pleased with the result. Mine had stretched so much a small section had to be cut out!

simon23 · 06 March 2013, 21:49

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Originally Posted by TomKat

I had the same issue with seams on my boat, where the cones meet the tubes, noticed on my mates new Humber that they have triangular reinforcing pieces laid on top of these areas and got a local tube repair guy to do this to my boat. Very pleased with the result. Mine had stretched so much a small section had to be cut out!

I think they call it a pear drop? Did it on my tornado and is well worth doing,that seam gets battered!

HUMBER P4VWL · 06 March 2013, 21:56

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Originally Posted by TomKat

I had the same issue with seams on my boat, where the cones meet the tubes, noticed on my mates new Humber that they have triangular reinforcing pieces laid on top of these areas and got a local tube repair guy to do this to my boat. Very pleased with the result. Mine had stretched so much a small section had to be cut out!

Can you post a pic? Having problems with ours.

limeydal · 07 March 2013, 04:42

Old adhesive thoroughly cleaned off.
Emailing Laurence at XS ribs again to double check.
Don't want to mess it up for save of waiting a day or two.

Anyone know him and could give him a call to verify??

Glue arrived today and so a waste if I have got the wrong stuff!

cheers Dal

Dave Cowell · 07 March 2013, 11:32

I buy fabric for repairs from the suppliers of fabric to Tornado & XS and they recommend hypalon glue for the PU fabric.

limeydal · 07 March 2013, 15:16

Dave
good to know!
Also from Laurence at xs
Yes it is fine, you need to do the Acetone prep and as soon as it is dry apply the first coat of glue, ie within seconds

So going for it, as soon as it warms up.Have drizzle today !!

cheers Dal

CJL · 07 March 2013, 19:01

Wear patch picture ......

simon23 · 07 March 2013, 20:46

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Originally Posted by CJL

Wear patch picture ......

Is it not supposted to cover the leading edge of the seam?

paul tilley · 07 March 2013, 21:10

The whole point of it is to cover the leading edge of the seam tape for it to be of any use

CJL · 07 March 2013, 21:21

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Originally Posted by paul tilley

The whole point of it is to cover the leading edge of the seam tape for it to be of any use

I put them over the leading edge of the seam to give it exactly that protection. The picture is one I found on the interweb and I hadn't noticed it doesn't cover the seam.

Makes you wonder why they bothered!

Chris

TomKat · 07 March 2013, 21:23

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Originally Posted by simon23

Is it not supposted to cover the leading edge of the seam?

what he said! My boat is buried in the garage so hard to take a pic but it looks just like the other pic only it covers the leading edge or the tape. Was £30 or something like it to get it done and was well pleased with it.

simon23 · 07 March 2013, 21:29

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Originally Posted by TomKat

what he said! My boat is buried in the garage so hard to take a pic but it looks just like the other pic only it covers the leading edge or the tape. Was £30 or something like it to get it done and was well pleased with it.

The one in the picture is wrong because it dosn't cover the leading edge of the seam,yours sounds like its right!