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Old 13 October 2010, 02:57   #1
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Scot suspension seats

Has anyone tried these seats?
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Old 13 October 2010, 03:12   #2
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I've tries both the original prototype and the full production models (both on Redbays 10m Outboard Boat) and was very impressed with them. To me they are more comfy than the Ullmans and are able to take away some lateral jarring movement as well.
I have sore back isssues most of the time but I honestly never felt a twinge after doing a trip on the 10m open boat-even though my crapberry didnt survive the soaking.

If I had to fit that type of seat as opposed to a real KAB suspension seat I would go for a Scots one.

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Old 13 October 2010, 04:19   #3
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We installed a pair on a Scorpion cabin Rib this year and the owner is really happy with them. Plus they look great.
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Old 13 October 2010, 06:46   #4
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Suspension seats

Hi guys, i am new at this forum and like the information presented.

I am looking for suspension seats as well. Have found X-Craft Suspension Seats a Dutch manufacturer in Holland who claims to make the stongest suspension seats in the world. Are you familiar with those seat???

Will have a meeting with them next week to experience it my selves.

Keep you updated and would like hearing from you.
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Old 13 October 2010, 07:08   #5
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Having tried the Scots and ribex this year I was very impressed, however the side movement concerns me as I feel they could very easily pinch or worse hit each other. Although they are very good Ullmans seem the perfect option.
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Old 13 October 2010, 07:31   #6
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the side movement concerns me as I feel they could very easily pinch or worse hit each other
There isn't THAT amount of lateral movement on a ScotSeat

Unless it was broken?
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There isn't THAT amount of lateral movement on a ScotSeat

Unless it was broken?
Both seats moving in opposite directions could cause an injury, they were not broken!

Rare I'm sure and yes they are very good!
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Old 13 October 2010, 12:03   #8
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we've got scot seats on our ribcraft 7.8 and have been very impressed by them. Someone else mentioned the pinching thing but having used them its hard to see how that could happen. The only modification we made was to get Scotseats to make up padding for the grab handle to stop the risk of whoever was in the seat behind losing their teeth on them!

I cant compare them with Ullmans as only used a boat with them on once but i would happily recommend them and Scotseats are always very helpful
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Ive always thought the upholstery looked a bit baggy in places and stitching wasnt great, the bases look cool. Saw a bucket seat one at ribrace and there was a split in the stitching on the rear of the seat. No idea how old they were
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We will present our new full carbon seat at the METS trade show16-18 november.
The lightest and most comfortable suspension seat in the world with the same strength we are known for.
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We will present our new full carbon seat at the METS trade show16-18 november.
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So you'll pay several thousand Euro's to exhibit at METS but £100 to become a trade member on RIBnet is too much to ask?

How do you define comfort to make claims like that?
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Thank you for your very nice comment Polwart. As far as i know i am a trade member. I will check with John.
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seems that my membership was expired. just renewed. Hope you will sleep better now polwart
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Does anyone have a rough idea of the cost of the Scot seats vs the X-craft vs the Ullman?

It would be good to have an idea...
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X-Craft comfort seat: 2175 GBP
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Good God, if the new anti-vibration legislation forces companies to have these seats, a) you will be a rich man and/or b) all commercial RIBs will be finished!

So for me that would be 14 x £2175= £30450 ....
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Good God, if the new anti-vibration legislation forces companies to have these seats, a) you will be a rich man and/or b) all commercial RIBs will be finished!

So for me that would be 14 x £2175= £30450 ....
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Why didn't Titanic carry enough lifeboats?
The Titanicís lifeboat capacity was governed by the British Board of Tradeís rules, which were drafted in 1894. By 1912, these lifeboat regulations were badly out of date. The Titanic was four times larger than the largest legal classification considered under the eighteen year old rules and so by law was not required to carry more than sixteen lifeboats, regardless of the actual number of people onboard. When she left Southampton, the Titanic actually carried more than the law required: the sixteen rigid lifeboats were supplemented by four additional collapsible boats. The shipping industry was aware that the lifeboat regulations were going to be changed soon and Titanicís deck space and davits were designed for the anticipated "boats for all" policy, but until the law actually changed, White Star was not going to install them. The decision seems difficult to understand today, but in 1912, the attitude towards accident prevention was much different. At the turn of the century, ship owners were reluctant to exceed the legal minimum because lifeboats took up most of the space on first- and second-class decks. Boats were expensive to purchase, maintain, and affected a shipís stability. Finally, in the years before the Titanic Disaster, it was felt that the very presence of large numbers of lifeboats suggested that somehow the vessel was unsafe. Oddly, the same reluctance showed up as late as the 1950s for automobile seatbelts. Car makers at that time were also reluctant to install seatbelts because the belts seemed to imply there was something unsafe about the car.

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Dont get me wrong, I would install seats such as these tomorrow, as I firmly believe that it is the right thing to do and a real benefit for all those on board.
My issue is that the cost represents over 1/3rd of the total cost of the vessel and to recoup this cost in the present enviroment, would be nigh on impossible.
However, if a seat manufacturer would like a demo boat on the South coast for next year, I would happily discuss. A highly visable company and with over 2500 passengers to try them out .....

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Dont get me wrong, I would install seats such as these tomorrow, as I firmly believe that it is the right thing to do and a real benefit for all those on board.
My issue is that the cost represents over 1/3rd of the total cost of the vessel and to recoup this cost in the present enviroment, would be nigh on impossible.
However, if a seat manufacturer would like a demo boat on the South coast for next year, I would happily discuss. A highly visable company and with over 2500 passengers to try them out .....

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But what about the loss of 1st Class accomodation on Sea Safari ??
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