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Old 27 October 2013, 11:29   #1
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RYA VHF Radio Course Now Takes 2 Days

I attended the annual RYA VHF assessors conference on Thursday where it was announched that the course will be run in a new format from 2nd Jan 2014.
You can either do online course and then come into a RYA training centre for a morning of further tuition and then after lunch take exam that now has a both a wriiten and practical sections, or take a 2 day course at the training centre for those who don`t like the internet method.
It`s going to take a while for the new format to settle down, but you only have 2 months to get the license the old way in a single day. You legally can`t use a marine vhf radio without a license. I hope this helps.
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You can either do online course and then come into a RYA training centre for a morning of further tuition and then after lunch take exam that now has a both a wriiten and practical sections
It is considered that it will take at least 5 hours to completed the online course and mock exam. On completion of the online course the student will get a user number which will be proof of completion required before the exam.

Another big difference is that to make the assessment independent of the Recognised Training Centre the Examiner will be employed by the RYA and not the RTC and as such the RYA will pay the Examiner for each student they assess.
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Oooh, I need to do mine in the new year along with PB2...

Online instruction sounds good...
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Old 27 October 2013, 12:03   #4
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Only time will tell if it works and gets more people trained up on the proper use of the radio. I`m still amazed when I hear people calling a marina on ch16 ! Or planning which pub to meet at, a very important issue, but not one for the coast guard.
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Haha, it is amazing what you hear on it... I just listen in and that's quite interesting...
I remember listening to a mayday over the summer and amazed at how cool and calm the skipper on the radio was...
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What on earth is the logic behind this?
When I did my VHF, course stated at 0930, was finished by 1600 with coffee and lunch breaks. I can't say it was a particularly taxing day. I really don't see what content would make this a 2 day event- apart from higher fees
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What on earth is the logic behind this?
When I did my VHF, course stated at 0930, was finished by 1600 with coffee and lunch breaks. I can't say it was a particularly taxing day. I really don't see what content would make this a 2 day event- apart from higher fees

The RYA is not to blame for this one - indeed they have kept it simple for years .

The reason for the changes are that a number of the EU countries donít accept the UK SRC as it currently does not comply with European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations (CEPT) requirements for course length and examination.
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Glad Im doing mine in two weeks then. Id not want to spend 2 days over it !
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What on earth is the logic behind this?
When I did my VHF, course stated at 0930, was finished by 1600 with coffee and lunch breaks. I can't say it was a particularly taxing day. I really don't see what content would make this a 2 day event- apart from higher fees
I agree, I enjoyed my 1 day course, and found it very useful, but 2 days ???

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I've been trying this week to find somewhere convenient to do the course before it changes, and found nothing.

I'll probably try the online version at some point next year and find somewhere to do the assessment in the summer; a one-day VHF course sounds good, but two days sounds like quite a slow way of passing a weekend...
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I attended the annual RYA VHF assessors conference on Thursday where it was announched that the course will be run in a new format from 2nd Jan 2014.
You can either do online course and then come into a RYA training centre for a morning of further tuition and then after lunch take exam that now has a both a wriiten and practical sections, or take a 2 day course at the training centre for those who don`t like the internet method.
It`s going to take a while for the new format to settle down, but you only have 2 months to get the license the old way in a single day. You legally can`t use a marine vhf radio without a license. I hope this helps.
So why does the Rya offer a watered down course for radio operation, then wonder why it isn't accepted by other European states. The restricted operators certificate(ROC) is 4-5 days or the GENERAL OPERATORS CERTIFICATE (GOC) 8 days are both accepted world wide.
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The requirement is 10 hours minimum
So online and arrange your exam or a blend of 3 hours online followed by classroom teaching followed by exam
Or classroom 10 hours followed by exam.

I am glad it's changed as it's a very full on course and speaking to other experienced instructors it's a route march to cover all the syllabus on a 0900 to 1700 type course with tea breaks lunch and exams plus marking .
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I am glad it's changed as it's a very full on course and speaking to other experienced instructors it's a route march to cover all the syllabus on a 0900 to 1700 type course with tea breaks lunch and exams plus marking .
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Tim, Did my course early in 2013, I certainly did not feel as if it was very full on, we started at approx 09.00 finished at 16.00 approx, 4 people, and discussed loads of other non course material however VHF related items.

2 days, can't see that !!
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Tim, Did my course early in 2013, I certainly did not feel as if it was very full on, we started at approx 09.00 finished at 16.00 approx, 4 people, and discussed loads of other non course material however VHF related items.

2 days, can't see that !!

First not sure of your course content and how much time you practiced voice radio procedures on routine, distress, urgent, and safety calls and how much time you spent on DSC and all the other subject related matter that can be included, and if your exam was open or closed book , as was not there but glad you got through the course .
Second new course time is minimum of 10 hours not 16 so day and a half tops.
It will in my opinion give better value to the certificate from the students point of view in allowing more time to absorb the course content and practice using voice radio procedure and give more confidence in using a radio.

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A 2 day course is only going to encourage even less people to acquire a licence.

I did mine 20+ years ago, as it was a requirement for powerboat racing. If it wasn't for the racing, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

I know quite a few people who are unlicenced, and who work on the principal that they'll only ever use the vhf in an emergency situation, so aren't concerned about the consequences.

I carry both fixed and portable on my boat, and in 20 years of being "legal", I've only used them a handful of times. Really don't see the obsession some people have. If i'm at the yard, I sometimes switch one on, only to hear the same people, radio checking, or waffling on about absolutely nothing.
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A 2 day course is only going to encourage even less people to acquire a licence.

I did mine 20+ years ago, as it was a requirement for powerboat racing. If it wasn't for the racing, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

I know quite a few people who are unlicenced, and who work on the principal that they'll only ever use the vhf in an emergency situation, so aren't concerned about the consequences.

I carry both fixed and portable on my boat, and in 20 years of being "legal", I've only used them a handful of times. Really don't see the obsession some people have. If i'm at the yard, I sometimes switch one on, only to hear the same people, radio checking, or waffling on about absolutely nothing.
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Its down to the individual at the end of the day if they want to be qualified or not or even competent or not .
Its aimed at the leisure and Commercial world as well as racing so depending on the individuals needs it's up to peeps to make up their own minds .
I am not expecting a mad rush of courses before Christmas that's for sure.
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Lol, I don't suppose you will.

Out of interest, is it possible to have no instruction whatsoever, and just take the test?
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Also, I don't think taking and passing the VHF course is a guarantee of continued competence. Bit like an MOT, it's only on that day!!!!
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Lol, I don't suppose you will.

Out of interest, is it possible to have no instruction whatsoever, and just take the test?
No more Direct Entry Exams from January

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The length of this course is one day in the Netherlands. Guess RYA decides the duration not the EU.
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