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Old 27 November 2010, 19:19   #1
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Ribs for fishing

Hi,

I am new to ribs and I am looking to buy a small rib to use for fishing. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a decent second hand rib of about 6.5m ?

One thing that did cross my mind though was if there was such a thing as a rib with solid plastic tubes or something similar? Maybe not quite rib in spirit but I was worried about hooks and fish spines going through regular inflateable tubes etc.

Anyone had any thoughts or experience in that respect. other than just be very careful of course!

I will ( always a problem with my name!) ... I Will be Coppin with the worry of punctures until I can find a sure fire way of reducing the chances of holes and dealing with the fish in the boat safely.

Feedback/ideas most welcome!
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Old 27 November 2010, 19:42   #2
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It's a rib, not a balloon. Don't worry about fish hooks.
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Old 27 November 2010, 19:57   #3
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You'll have to try quite hard to puncture a Mac
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Old 27 November 2010, 20:07   #4
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One reason coast guard uses ribs is so they can easily tie up to other vessels without damaging either boat. They have to be able to withstand cuts and abrasions from barnacles and other sticky growths. Having said that, I use mine extensively for fishing in the gulf of mexico. Lots of fish with shaking heads and big teeth: sharks, cudas, king macrel. Sometimes if I am catching big sharks I hang a blanket over the side that was designed to protect car fenders while welding. It has grommets and just hangs on the tubes with S hooks.
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BTW, wish I could afford a "small" 6.5m rib, and they do make ribs with rigid and foam tubes.
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Old 27 November 2010, 20:19   #6
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I think you're worrying unnecessarily. We're talking about a 6.5m RIB here (aka Ark Royal) to those who have fished with SIBs and small RIBs.

At this size, the tube material is more than likely going to be hypalon. Even Strongan Duotex (Zodiac's PVC material) is robust enough to withstand a stray hook. A little common sense and care when you're fishing is all that's required. Hell - you're not landing swordfish!

Use a decent boat rod (8' in length) and have a plastic fish box on board. On a strike - then retrieve the fish as normal. When it's close to the surface, then swing it high over the tube and into the fish box. The rod can now be placed on the deck of the boat. With the fish and the hook (or hooks if you're using a mackerel line) safely in the box - you can remove it. Decide whether you're keeping the fish and despatch it with a priest quickly, job done.

One thing I've found is fishing tackle bags are a waste of time. Invariably they get soaked and slide about. A tackle box with multi-compartments is the way to go. Secure when underway.
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Will, I have been fishing in the Solent from a RIB for over 5 years without a problem. What I have an issue with is that visitor anglers seem to like propping their rods up against my outboard The other disadvantage is that there is no cover or shelter from the elements, so winter fishing is only for true hard nuts.
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Will as others have said in reality the risk of puncturing a decent set of tubes with fish hooks is pretty low. If there was a particular area you felt was vulnerable, you could add an extra wear patch or temporary protection when fishing. The issue other than hooks and spikey fish is careless friends with knives. They might not actually slash your tubes but scratches and scrapes are almost as annoying!

There are boats available with solid molded plastic tubes. These have another advantage - they are usually made from UHMW polythene and so are extremely low maintainence and if you spill fish guts all over them will just need a hose to clean out. BogMonster has highlighted one brand (Mac) but there are others, some look more / less rib like. These are all rotomolded (if you search that term you'll find my previous post on the topic), and extremely robust. But I think you might struggle to get one a 6.5m (Atlantic Focus have a 6+m in their range but its not rib style).

Another option is a plastic tube with a more conventional hull, eg. Flugga boats? and there was someone recently posting on the US part of this forum making PE boats from "sheet" welded together.

The final option is foam filled tubes, but these are rate and normally only found on commercial vessels.
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Possibly a metre too large, but the layout and spec of this craft would surely be ideal for your needs. Maybe incorporating some of the ideas into a slightly smaller boat would work

http://www.ribmagazine.com/site/inde...=998&Itemid=84

The boat "Nitrox" who's owner posts on here, is also set up well for fishing I believe.
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ive fished from a wood deck sib and had not worries about damaging it. The materials pretty strong and even if you did somehow jab it the hole will be tiny and easy to fix. Dont worry and enjoy!
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Just get the pliers out and bend the end of the hook inwards a little more so it doesn't catch on anything.. Simple!! That's what we do and it works a treat.. Doesn't interfere with the fishing either! But as everyone says, it's hard and rare to puncture the tubes( fingers crossed!!) 
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My namesake joined, posted and hasn't returned since the 27th. I hope he's ok
If he comes back, I'll share my fibfisher tip with him
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Bent hooks

Thanks for all the reassurance everyone. I am going to go with the regular inflateable tubes as there is more choice of boats out there and judging by the experience from the people replying here it doesn't look like it is going to be an issue.

I particularly liked the idea of bending the hooks in a little further I used to do that anyway a few years ago as I thought it actually improved my catch rate.

Thanks for all the advice and reassurance.

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Just spotted this post!

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My namesake joined, posted and hasn't returned since the 27th. I hope he's ok
If he comes back, I'll share my fibfisher tip with him
Yes I am OK :-) - My job takes me out of the country frequently to all sorts of far flung places so I don't always get time to relax and surf - online or on the water!

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Yes I am OK :-) - My job takes me out of the country frequently to all sorts of far flung places so I don't always get time to relax and surf - online or on the water!

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There you are! I thought you were a gonner. Anyway, here's me tips:

1. Nail a linoleum rectangle to a suitable plank and roll it up alongside a tube when under way - deploy over the tube as a guard while fishing.

2. Don't allow pointy ended knives on board

3. Land your catch into a fish box

There are a few interesting pointers in this:

http://www.fishingfilmsandfacts.co.uk/mribfisher.asp

BTW - It was that wicked channel block, Malthouse, who coined the terms Fibfisher, Fishwisher and Fishfibber for the Stormforce Ribfisher.
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I've had a 6.1m Redbay with a forward cuddy for four years . it's a great boat for fishing and beach launching. The tubes have double-cladding at the work areas and have had no problems with the tubes.The boat is on the Redbay website ref, "Ribfisher"
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The boat is on the Redbay website ref, "Ribfisher"
The boat (and you) are in that link above!
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I've had a 6.1m Redbay with a forward cuddy for four years . it's a great boat for fishing and beach launching. The tubes have double-cladding at the work areas and have had no problems with the tubes.
A 'looker' I'd imagine.

What is she clad in?
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A 'looker' I'd imagine.
Possibly why he used his 11m Bluewater Raven for the Great British Rib Rally
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What is she clad in?
It's generally rubber (neoprene?) as seen on Deltas etc. Sometimes with Treadmaster on the topsides. Like this one, hatched earlier this week

Noteworthy as the, ahem, Irish Coast Guard commissioned it....
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