Ribbing to France/ Ships Register ?

mstacey · 27 March 2003, 16:53

If I intend to go across the channel to France I seem to recall something about needing to register the rib on a ships register ?

Is this true and if yes how do I go about it ?

Keith Hart · 27 March 2003, 17:46

Martin

What are you trying to do? Sell the fleece or frighten people?

Keith (look who's talking) Hart

Manos · 27 March 2003, 18:22

For taking a boat any where in the Continent you need to register the boat to the small ships register in the UK and get an SSR number. The letter and the number you should display clearly on both sides of your boat together with the name of the boat.
You also need to have insurance, VAT paid certificate, all boat papers inc purchase invoice, all safety equipment that are required in the country where you are going to use the boat (very important fines are HEAVY) and your ICC.
That's the lot and you're on your way

Aging Youth · 27 March 2003, 18:24

Hi MStacey,

I went through this process earlier in the year, if you contact:

Registry of Shipping & Seaman,
MCA Cardiff
Anchor Court, Ocean Way
Cardiff
CF24 5JW
Tel: 029 20448855

They will send you the relevant forms just return with appropriate fee £20 if I remember right.

They will send out your certificate with details of boat, name of boat & registered owner & SSR number to be displayed on boat hull or tube.

Its as easy as that

Regards

Manos · 27 March 2003, 18:42

Just forgot. If you have and operate a VHF you need to have a VHF Operators Licence, the VHF fee paid and the sticker displaied on your boat.
VHFs on boats are compulsory in most countries. I believe this applies to France. I will check it out for you

Daniel · 27 March 2003, 19:03

If you look on my website under the 'Useful Stuff' section is the SSR form to download and fill in.

Usefull er?

Cheers

D

PS: Manos - are you sure SSR needs to be on both sides of boat - mine is on the transom only will i nicked?

Manos · 27 March 2003, 19:12

Daniel I am 10000000% sure.
If you happen to get near an official who wants to go by the book you can pay a hefty fine (in Greece is Euro 300). Is up to you

mstacey · 27 March 2003, 20:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Hart

What are you trying to do? Sell the fleece or frighten people?

Perhaps you could use me as a prop in your Voodoo extravaganza ?

mstacey · 27 March 2003, 21:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Manos
you need to have a VHF Operators Licence, the VHF fee paid and the sticker displaied on your boat.

Um ! I've done the course. got the licence 9its here in front of me but sticker, what sticker ?? Was it supposed to come with the licence or do I need to get it seperatley ?

mstacey · 27 March 2003, 21:02

Thanks to everybody for the information and the links to the form.

Richard B · 27 March 2003, 21:42

Quote:

Originally posted by mstacey
sticker, what sticker ??...do I need to get it seperatley ?

Yes you do.

Like your car's tax disc, you need an annual VHF license (Your personal license - properly called operator's certificate- is like your VHF driving license, the boat's VHF license - properly called ships radio license - is like your car tax disc)

http://www1.mrc.royalmail.co.uk/RADI...2?OpenDocument

Don't forget your red duster and courtesy flag!

Alex Brown · 27 March 2003, 21:43

Hi Martin,

I assume Manos means the boats license from the Radiocommunications Agency which is displayed in a clear sticker thing on your boat.

I downloaded mine from http://www.radio.gov.uk/topics/marit...time-index.htm
and I think it's another £20 fee if I remember right. Takes about 7 to 10 days to come through when you've sent the details in to them..... that's if you remember to sign it of course (d'oh) - the first app I sent them I forgot to sign at the end, so it got sent back again.... oops

-Alex

Alex Brown · 27 March 2003, 21:44

damn, Pepper beat me to it by 1 minute!!

DJL · 27 March 2003, 21:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Daniel
PS: Manos - are you sure SSR needs to be on both sides of boat - mine is on the transom only will i nicked?

I have just read the leaflet which came with my SSR certificate. There is nothing about displaying the number on both sides of the boat.

From MCA leaflet;

Quote:

You must ensure that your vessel is marked with its registered number (including the prefix 'SSR'). This must be painted on, or fixed to the exterior of the hull, deck or superstructure where it can be readily seen.

Richard B · 27 March 2003, 21:49

Very nippy, us SIBsters, heh heh!!

Richard B · 27 March 2003, 21:57

Yes - nobody in the cold bit of Europe will bother about where/how your SSR is displayed. Bloody pedantic Greeks, LOL

The French of course have a reputation for being officious, but I've never experienced it either as a land based tourist or by sea. I was once advised I could "drink as much as you like and drive home" when on holiday in France "as they'll never bother to stop a car with GB plates" - I didn't test this, of course!

Daniel · 27 March 2003, 22:13

I will be quite anoyed if i do need to move my SSR sticker since it's only been there about 10 hours (made it this morning and stuck it on lunchtime!!!!!). Havent found the leaflet yet but i'm going to gamble on this one and go with DJL's advice!

So you'll be putting up the bail money Daniel!

Cheers

mstacey · 27 March 2003, 22:23

Yikees !!

Will there be enough room for all these stickers and things.

Best I get a blooming advertising board stuck on the aframe .

Perhaps I'll go back to playing with the rubber duck at bath time

mstacey · 27 March 2003, 22:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
Yes you do.

Like your car's tax disc, you need an annual VHF license (Your personal license - properly called operator's certificate- is like your VHF driving license, the boat's VHF license - properly called ships radio license - is like your car tax disc)

Don't forget your red duster and courtesy flag!

Ok, thanks I get the idea now and have downloaded the appropriate ships radio form and will send it off tommorrow.

Whats the protocol/ accepted practice on flying a red ensign and a courtesy flag ??

Richard B · 27 March 2003, 22:32

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Originally posted by mstacey
Whats the protocol/ accepted practice on flying a red ensign and a courtesy flag ??

- oh no, this is one of those Qs that can make a thread go on forever! YBW.com has loads on flag protocol stuff, esp on the yottie forum...

I think you just have the red ensign as the major (highest and largest) and the courtesy flag as the minor (lower and smaller). As RIBs have fairly simple flag arrangements (if any!) most of the yottie stuff about where to fly what is sort of irrelevant. However you can elaborate as much as you like. Skipper's nationality, etc (note Charles's SA flag on his "mucking about" thread).

Of course, the most important thing is the RIBnet burgee