Rib Security

Wibs · 08 October 2013, 18:36

What do you guys think about these..?

Tile

I've ordered a few, as I'm always losing my phone/keys/wallet. It got me thinking if it was worth hiding one in the rib.?

Not a lot of good if the rib got nicked and stayed out at sea, but if it passed anyone within 150ft that also had the app installed on their phone at least it would let me know..!

The two negative's I see is that they only last a year, but at $18 a tile (less if you buy more) it's a small price to pay, and they will only work well if loads of people subscribe.(it does look like it's getting a lot of interest so far.)

Any....I'm gonna trail them, and if anyone wants to know what they are like, let me know.

James

SteveHall · 08 October 2013, 19:26

I love my Garmin GTU 10, little more expensive but love knowing where the RIB is, got mine set to text and email twice a day with the location, and after I've been out I can analyse my trips...

Wibs · 08 October 2013, 19:34

Does that mean you pay a monthly subscription, or per text?

I also presume the garmin is quite a bulky item, pretty visible and thief with knowledge would remove this before running off with your goods?

Not trying to put it down, it sounds a great product, and there are prob many other products like this. I like the size of the Tile and would only need to hope that if some bugger did run off with my rib, whilst showing it to a potential buyer(who may have the app installed on his phone)would unwittingly let me know it's position.!

SteveHall · 08 October 2013, 19:46

Hmm the Garmin was about £150 to buy, then from year 2 you have to renew it each year and that's about £50 from memory. The unit works everywhere as well from memory, so my trip to the IOM was tracked. I guess the unit lost some signal in the middle, but when I arrived and checked my track it was all online - so it uploaded the bits it had missed.

I then pay £4 a month for checkin texts, continuous tracking and a few other bits - but the unit is still useful without this extra, and I don't always pay this tho as I sometimes forget. The unit is hidden in the console and is about the size of a match box - it's well hidden and hard wired to the battery, but will run for 4 weeks with the internal battery. So plan is, I get a text telling me it's moved, I open up the iPhone app and select follow, jump in my car and give the police a call... Luckily never had to put this plan in action!

Wibs · 08 October 2013, 19:54

To be fair the Garmin sounds a far superior product, and if I was protecting and asset of £20k+ I would prob look into something like that.

The Tile just looks a cheap alternative(for us boys with the 'cheap' toys)$18 a year so approx £1 a month to run?

...but it's only going to work if loads of people sign up to it.?

Hummmm, I'll see how well they work on my phone/keys/wallet.

Pikey Dave · 08 October 2013, 20:49

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Originally Posted by SteveHall

jump in my car and give the police a call...

& after being on hold for half an hour, they give you a crime number for the insurance.

SteveHall · 08 October 2013, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

& after being on hold for half an hour, they give you a crime number for the insurance.

Not when I tell them what I'm gonna do to the people who have taken it!

I bet I'd get armed response....

kerny · 08 October 2013, 21:07

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Originally Posted by SteveHall

Not when I tell them what I'm gonna do to the people who have taken it!

I bet I'd get armed response....

Wrong thread Steve... vigilante thread here...

http://www.rib.net/forum/f51/up-your...nte-58496.html

SteveHall · 13 March 2014, 10:42

I use my GTU 10, and have done for 3 years so far trouble free, I let my deluxe tracking lapse over winter. Logged into the site today to re-sign up, and I got this!

The GTU 10 Asset Tracker and Pet Tracker is no longer being manufactured or sold by Garmin. GTU 10 services will continue to be provided until the dates below.
31/12/2014 - Last opportunity to renew the Basic subscription for 12 months.
30/11/2014 - Last opportunity to renew the Deluxe subscription for a month.
31/12/2014 - Deluxe subscription service ends.
01/01/2016 - Basic subscription service ends. The web interface and mobile phone app will also be discontinued on this date.

What a load of rubbish!

Pikey Dave · 13 March 2014, 11:16

I'm assuming that there's a SIM card in the tracker. It might be possible to swap the SIM card for a PAYG & use another tracking service, similar to the TK102

SteveHall · 13 March 2014, 11:23

No sim, its a sealed unit.

I loved it though, as through winter just leave it ticking away and I get an email & text when the boat is moved.

Then over the summer months I pay the extra monthly fee for history, more text messages, continuous tracking and a few other nice bits so that I can look back over my trips.

Love the app as well, so get full control on my iphone and ipad, and can see it on maps without any issues.

I installed it when I got the boat, and haven't touched it since, but now need to look for another option.

A1an · 13 March 2014, 12:08

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Originally Posted by SteveHall

No sim, its a sealed unit.

I loved it though, as through winter just leave it ticking away and I get an email & text when the boat is moved.

Then over the summer months I pay the extra monthly fee for history, more text messages, continuous tracking and a few other nice bits so that I can look back over my trips.

Love the app as well, so get full control on my iphone and ipad, and can see it on maps without any issues.

I installed it when I got the boat, and haven't touched it since, but now need to look for another option.

I'd be quite interested in your findings, not because I want to steal your boat but I've been researching some sort of tracker for mine and can't come up with a solution. Most of them seem to rely on their internal battery power but I'm looking for something I can hard wire.

If anyone has some pointers/recommendations then please feel free to PM me.

HUMBER P4VWL · 13 March 2014, 12:24

Oh. Used ours for over 3 years. Drawn geofences when it has been on the mooring, at boat yards, tube specialists etc. notified when it left any of them, be it family going in and out, so i knew they were home safe, or when it was being towed from one to another, Old man or I knew that whoever was towing it had made it the journey safely.

Need to renew ours in April, assuming the same notices i feel we have had our money's worth anyway. Why they aren't supporting it i don't know.

Have they and upgraded model? I'd certainly invest again.

still for sale with no notice of withdrawal? http://www8.garmin.com/followme/

Uk website is still selling them, and there doesn't apperar to be a Garmin GTU20 for example. I have emailed them to find out.

On the Amazon website USA it does say discontinued. I have just updated my renewal and been informed of nothing. strange

Jeff · 13 March 2014, 12:28

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Originally Posted by A1an

I'd be quite interested in your findings, not because I want to steal your boat but I've been researching some sort of tracker for mine and can't come up with a solution. Most of them seem to rely on their internal battery power but I'm looking for something I can hard wire.

If anyone has some pointers/recommendations then please feel free to PM me.

The TK102's and derivatives can be hard wire powered via the micro USB. I actusally use a 12v phone adaptor/charger as opposed to those sold by/with the sellers of the TK102.
It is connected to a permanent live - not affected by the main battery or instrument isolator switces. Even with a so called protected CTEK charger, the others blew when charging the battery. I assume the phone ones have better 'surge' protection? I never need to disconnect the tracker now and the internal battery would only trip in if the main battery feed was cut

Jeff

Tracker and charging adaptor are in an IP67 enclosure

SteveHall · 13 March 2014, 12:37

No idea why they are stopping it.

And yes still see it for sale online!

HUMBER P4VWL · 13 March 2014, 12:42

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Originally Posted by Jeff

The TK102's and derivatives can be hard wire powered via the micro USB. I actusally use a 12v phone adaptor/charger as opposed to those sold by/with the sellers of the TK102.
It is connected to a permanent live - not affected by the main battery or instrument isolator switces. Even with a so called protected CTEK charger, the others blew when charging the battery. I assume the phone ones have better 'surge' protection? I never need to disconnect the tracker now and the internal battery would only trip in if the main battery feed was cut

Jeff

Tracker and charging adaptor are in an IP67 enclosure

Like the look of the enclosure but it kind of makes it obvious what it is....

GTU10 can be hard wired too with micro USB. No problems had. Shame if it is discontinued with no replacement. Has been faultless.

Jeff · 13 March 2014, 13:57

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

Like the look of the enclosure but it kind of makes it obvious what it is....

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That depends where /how accessible it is

Trimix · 13 March 2014, 14:22

Bugger, thats shite news. Ive got a couple of them, so it seems they will only work till then end of next year then.

HUMBER P4VWL · 13 March 2014, 14:48

Where does it say it ends at the end of 2014?

Crew2 · 13 March 2014, 19:59

From the Garmin website - no plans to replace the GTU 10.

The GTU 10 has been discontinued, does this mean that my GTU 10 won't work any longer?
No your GTU 10 is still supported and will work fine. Garmin will support the device until end of 2015. Customers can renew the subscription for the Basic service (12 months) up until the end of 2014 and for the Delux subscription service (1 month) up until the end of November 2015
Will I be able to use my GTU 10 with a different service provider once the service has been discontinued?
No unfortunately not. The GTU 10 works with the integrated SIM card only – besides the network service, all other services like the webpage and the mobile app will also be discontinued as of the 1st of January 2016.
Will there be a replacement for the GTU10?
At this point Garmin does not plan to do manufacture another tracking device like the GTU 10.