Red Bay 10m Stormforce

Phil · 10 February 2010, 14:55

Does any one on here know the boat advertised on the redbay site? It seems to have been on sale for a long time but looks like a tidy vessel.

Just wondered if there are any obvious downers before I contact them

willk · 10 February 2010, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Phil

Does any one on here know the boat advertised on the redbay site? It seems to have been on sale for a long time but looks like a tidy vessel.

Just wondered if there are any obvious downers before I contact them

I have had a good nosey around Redbay 10. I know a little about her.
She is a 9.1m, but confusingly named "Redbay 10". She is very clean, currently in the yard at Redbay with a prop off. The owner has a serious back problem and has had to give up ribbing. She hasn't seen much action for the last couple of years. She can't be a particularly fast boat but is a true long distance, all weather rib. The asking seems a bit optimistic.

Phil · 10 February 2010, 17:28

thanks for that willk

speed per se is not prime- the ability to cruise long range is more important.

as far as price is concerned I will have to research but it seems quite hard to find meaningful comparisons

willk · 10 February 2010, 17:42

Well she's four next month, so the years are adding up, depreciation wise. A lot of second hand redbays are selling into Scandanavia, so the market may be somewhat distorted. In her favour, her owner seems to be a serious boater (so well specced and maintained), she has a very tasty cruising cover for the deck and she has twin diesels, twin tanks etc. The hours should be low as stated.

PeterM · 10 February 2010, 19:31

Does it have wipers ? ( for the screen ). I've not done much closed cabin boating - but how do you see out in the conditions I am sure it is designed and able to cope with ?

willk · 10 February 2010, 20:08

Obviously not in the original spec (website photos) but I don't know if they were fitted later. It's a good question though, quite a number of the cabin ribs don't fit them, some do. A few of the owners I've asked have said that they don't feel the need for them and that they tend to give jip. Some owners put a spray on the screen that helps it clear (it must lower the surface tension of the water?)

In either case, she's sat at the Factory so I'd imagine a wiper or two wouldn't break the deal

Boo · 10 February 2010, 20:30

cant add much to what Willk has said about this boat, but have seen it many times at Redbay and admired it many times when I am over there for a service etc.

Think price is at the top end however a few months ago it was asking £90K on the website, so it has been reduced quite a bit.

willk · 10 February 2010, 20:40

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but have seen it many times at Redbay and admired it many times when I am over there for a service etc.

I'm always impressed with the number of Redbay owners who make the passage to Cushendall from Scotland and the rest of the UK for servicing. My own wee lady was based on Arran originally and was back every year (by sea) for her service. A testimony to the boats, the skippers and the service!

BTW, Cameo - nice rib

Phil · 10 February 2010, 21:01

I noticed the price reduction- I have been looking at this boat for a number of months

I am looking for a cabin/cuddy (not of the Cobra type solitary) and diesel; assume I was willing to splash £75k what springs to mind?

willk · 10 February 2010, 21:56

I dunno!

To assist with your price comparison, I do know that a new Expedition 8.4, single 285hp, trailer is about £80k incl. VAT, electronics extra. The Expedition is 8.6m LOA, and probably seats as many or more than Redbay 10 (I don't think she had side benches in the Cabin???) and does about 35 knots. I'd guess that Redbay 10 is not towable. The Expeditions are, if you take the anchor out

So I'd be wondering about the £75k... other than the attraction of the second motor, which is a major plus, until servicing time

If I was you - I'd hop on a cheapie flight and test drive both of them

jwalker · 11 February 2010, 00:05

A wee comment on wipers if I may butt in. A boat without wipers can be driven in the same way you might drive a car without wipers. Some folk seem to accept it as ok, IMHO it's crap. Plastic screens scratch very easily when fitted with a wiper. Rain-ex is a water dispersing spray for screens. It does work but it kinda relies on the wind to blow the beads off.

Boo · 11 February 2010, 08:31

I agree with JW. You would be insane to put a wiper on a Lexan/plastic screen. I carry bottles of water so that we can always wash the screen down and avoid any salt build up which has kept the screen like new.

Regarding Redbay 10, I dont think she would through up much spray anyway and I am pretty sure the screen and windows are marine grade glass and not Lexan.

For the budget stated there would be plenty of options from Redbay and they have recently done a few smaller hard cabin boats which look great and offer cuddy, cabin, diesel economy and potentially towable. Not many boxes left unticked!!

Boo

Phil · 11 February 2010, 10:15

thanks for the help

you are right -I'll have to pop over and have a proper look around

ScotSeats · 11 February 2010, 10:45

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Originally Posted by willk

Obviously not in the original spec (website photos) but I don't know if they were fitted later. It's a good question though, quite a number of the cabin ribs don't fit them, some do. A few of the owners I've asked have said that they don't feel the need for them and that they tend to give jip. Some owners put a spray on the screen that helps it clear (it must lower the surface tension of the water?)

In either case, she's sat at the Factory so I'd imagine a wiper or two wouldn't break the deal

Just coat the screen regularly with rain x and the water beads and runs off the screen if you try it on your car you hardly need to use your wipers.

willk · 11 February 2010, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Boo

Regarding Redbay 10, I dont think she would through up much spray anyway and I am pretty sure the screen and windows are marine grade glass and not Lexan.

Aye, only the wraparounds are Lexan.

Big Dipper · 11 February 2010, 12:27

Phil you might have a look at Excalibur Ribs at www.ribs.ie . Joe makes a nice 9m wraparound with a cuddy. He used to be with Redbay. Doing his own thing in Cork for several years now. Excellent reputation for well built well finished offshore ribs, also very competitive.

willk · 11 February 2010, 14:11

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...also very competitive.

There's the problem - unless Phil can reclaim or get Exemption from the 21% VAT and take the hit on weak Sterling, they might not seem so good value over there?

Phil · 11 February 2010, 17:03

Big Dipper,

have also had my eye on that 9.2 sports (also long time on market) but I believe the hard nose of the redbay is better

willk, good point - now the "Greek Tragedy" has been averted I cannot hold my breath on a Euro collapse; oh for the days of 1.4!!!

donegaldan · 14 February 2010, 11:26

Just to add my 2 cents..... Redbay 10 to the best of my knowledge had been to France and back...
I have yet to see a rib as well outfitted for navigation with charts and not totally reliant on a set of battery backups and gps signals.
Full charting table was very impressive, and looked like a little tough cruiser compared to the bigger 11m boats.
Price is still a bit high but if i had the money, she'd be mine.

Big Dipper ... is that your redbay thats for sale with excalibur on ribs.ie ???

HUMBER P4VWL · 14 February 2010, 20:25

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Originally Posted by willk

I dunno!

To assist with your price comparison, I do know that a new Expedition 8.4, single 285hp, trailer is about £80k incl. VAT, electronics extra. The Expedition is 8.6m LOA, and probably seats as many or more than Redbay 10 (I don't think she had side benches in the Cabin???) and does about 35 knots. I'd guess that Redbay 10 is not towable. The Expeditions are, if you take the anchor out

So I'd be wondering about the £75k... other than the attraction of the second motor, which is a major plus, until servicing time

If I was you - I'd hop on a cheapie flight and test drive both of them

not sure what you would use your boat for, and I'll get crucified on here, but for that wedge and serious boating, have you looked at a targa 31 or similar. A friend has one and has circum the uk, Ireland, iow etc. As fast as our rib and keeps going in anything, just awesome. used by customs/police etc. Comfy inside with berths heads etc as well. Surely more appropriate for leisure use/cruising rather than a v expensive rib that's more commercial use orientated. Much more noble and solid than a sunseeker gin palace. Only an idea.