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Old 15 January 2021, 06:00   #1
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re-fueling options

Morning folks,

Just wondering what you all do for fuel while your boat is in the harbour/marina? For those of us not fortunate enough to have fueling facilities on our harbours...

Do you just use Jerrycans and a funnel?

I've been looking at things like this;
https://www.fueltankshop.co.uk/50-li...ley-cemo/p3054


or a couple of these;
https://www.fueltankshop.co.uk/25-li...zle-cemo/p3053

Unsure whether they'd be good, or rubbish. I always seem to make a miss while decanting from 20L Jerrycans, and that's with the boat on the driveway, so I can imagine there'd be a pretty impressive sheen in the water if i was to decant whilst in harbour!

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Old 15 January 2021, 06:21   #2
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Morning folks,



Just wondering what you all do for fuel while your boat is in the harbour/marina? For those of us not fortunate enough to have fueling facilities on our harbours...



Do you just use Jerrycans and a funnel?



I've been looking at things like this;

https://www.fueltankshop.co.uk/50-li...ley-cemo/p3054





or a couple of these;

https://www.fueltankshop.co.uk/25-li...zle-cemo/p3053



Unsure whether they'd be good, or rubbish. I always seem to make a miss while decanting from 20L Jerrycans, and that's with the boat on the driveway, so I can imagine there'd be a pretty impressive sheen in the water if i was to decant whilst in harbour!



cheers,



Si
I've normally used 20-25l jerry cans and a shaker siphon. I use a 1" shaker siphon where possible (it'll empty the jerry is less than 10 seconds). If the jerry opening is too narrow a ½" shaker siphon, it takes a bit longer. Siphons are not half as messy as decanting from a jerry can.

*RE the two links you posted:*

- The 50 l trolley looks like a neat bitta kit. My concern with the 50l petrol trolley is that it might be outside your local or national regulations. Here in Ireland we're limited to 27l portable tanks. We generally tend to minic and tweak what the UK have as a regulation. You'd have to check that your local and national petrol storage and transport regs.

- The 20-25l looks gimicky. You're still likely going to have to raise the tank above the nozzle for enough flow. IMO you'd be better off with a shaker siphon.

Those are my 2c anyway.

In the unlikely event (COVID) you're buying a siphon in person, many shops and chandleries keep the ½" siphons in the back, leaving to the ¼" out on display.
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Old 15 January 2021, 06:26   #3
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I've normally used 20-25l jerry cans and a shaker siphon. I use a 1" shaker siphon where possible (it'll empty the jerry is less than 10 seconds). If the jerry opening is too narrow a ½" shaker siphon, it takes a bit longer. Siphons are not half as messy as decanting from a jerry can.

*RE the two links you posted:*

- The 50 l trolley looks like a neat bitta kit. My concern with the 50l petrol trolley is that it might be outside your local or national regulations. Here in Ireland we're limited to 27l portable tanks. We generally tend to minic and tweak what the UK have as a regulation. You'd have to check that your local and national petrol storage and transport regs.

- The 20-25l looks gimicky. You're still likely going to have to raise the tank above the nozzle for enough flow. IMO you'd be better off with a shaker siphon.

Those are my 2c anyway.

In the unlikely event (COVID) you're buying a siphon in person, many shops and chandleries keep the ½" siphons in the back, leaving to the ¼" out on display.
I hadn't heard of those - they certainly seem like a good solution.

re our laws... i'm not supposed to drive about with 3 x 20L jerrycans full, but well.... enough said.
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Old 15 January 2021, 06:44   #4
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I hadn't heard of those - they certainly seem like a good solution.

re our laws... i'm not supposed to drive about with 3 x 20L jerrycans full, but well.... enough said.
Actually you can drive with up to 240L in cans and still be within the law. The law on this is wide ranging and you need to dig deep. However, most petrol station only allow 5L which is their local policy. 24hr pay at the pump is the answer

For fuel transfer look up ‘jiggle syphon’
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10 lt cans (Easier to Carry) and a Jiggle Syphon (Best thing ever invented)
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Jerry can on top of the console and clipped to the screen rail with a jiggle/siphon tube for me.

Takes very little time and doesn't risk fuel on the deck.
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Demo of jiggle siphon on a small plane 57secs in.
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Jiggle syphon purchased! thanks a lot as always!
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Jiggle syphons are handy but just make sure you are on the ball quickly to pull the right end of the hose out of the petrol can when your tank is full. There are a couple of different gauges in hose, the bigger one that I use empties a 20lt can in about 30 seconds which makes it very hard to not spill a little when the boat tank is full.
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I had seen these.... but working in oil and gas, i'm pretty paranoid about spark potential work around flammable vapors and I just don't trust it to not set me on fire! They're probably absolutely fine, but well.... i'm just a bit of a fanny!

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