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15 September 2012, 20:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: Marple
Make: Zodiac
Length: under 3m
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 651
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Originally Posted by chewy
Just don't buy Chinese and you'll be fine, RIB's that is and not food!
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I'm not sure the OP knew it was made in China when he bought it, as it was a branded/known make purchased from a UK dealer?
I bought a fairly high end tracking telescope a few years ago, and was disappointed to find that it was made in China, despite being one of the best known brands.
It soon developed a fault with the star tracking hardware and I sent it back.
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15 September 2012, 20:33
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Originally Posted by lightning
I bought a fairly high end stalking telescope a few years ago, and was disappointed to find that it was made in China, despite being one of the best known brands.
It soon developed a fault with the star tracking hardware and I sent it back.
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What, you set it for Kylie but it insisted on following SuBo?
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15 September 2012, 22:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Make: RIBTEC 655
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam 150
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,160
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Hate to be the bringer of more bad news but you reckon the hull is bad, just wait for the tubes to start failing.
On the plus side, I believe they've moved production to eastern Europe and they know a thing of two about moulding stuff over there so hopefully these horror stories stop
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15 March 2013, 00:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hampshire
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25hp Outboard
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 16
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Good news is that I got a refund in the end. I had to write a series of strongly worded letters, including warnings of legal action and trading standards involvement if a refund was not forthcoming, and that worked.
The key to it all was that the boat was registered under the EU Recreational Craft Directive, Category C. This meant the importer could self-certify the boat's design and compliance with the regulations, but had to maintain a technical file showing the relevant compliance documents, calculations, etc. I demanded to see this and threatened trading standards involvement if it was not forthcoming; needless to say, the importer did not (or could not?) produce the necessary compliance documents, and the refund came rather quickly after that.
I have to say, what is the point of a CE mark and the Recreational Craft Directive if an importer (and member of the British Marine Federation) can bring over substandard items from overseas, register them in accordance with the EU RCD, whack a CE mark on them and sell them as if they met the RCD standards, even through they do not? Talk about a massive loophole! For the protection of consumers I think this loophole should be closed and will be writing to a few people about it, not least the British Marine Federation and my MP...
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15 March 2013, 10:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,154
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The "CE" mark always was & always will be a load of meaningless bo110cks.
Well done on the refund, another salutary lesson about Chinknese built RIBs.
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15 March 2013, 10:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Originally Posted by Bobalong
The key to it all was that the boat was registered under the EU Recreational Craft Directive, Category C. This meant the importer could self-certify the boat's design and compliance with the regulations, but had to maintain a technical file showing the relevant compliance documents, calculations, etc. I demanded to see this and threatened trading standards involvement if it was not forthcoming; needless to say, the importer did not (or could not?) produce the necessary compliance documents, and the refund came rather quickly after that.
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Love it In my line (nothing to do with the marine industry) I have always hated having to put together the technical file, just more paperwork To hear of a technical file actually being useful to one of us in this way is great
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15 March 2013, 10:47
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Country: UK - England
Length: 7m +
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Surely you can name the brand now ?
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15 March 2013, 11:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: TIDEL III
Make: AVON SEARIDER
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 823
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With regards to chinese build quality it should not all be dismissed as rubbish .I have just retubed a 5mtr rib which i am now selling and the tubes were not that clever but they had had a hard time in Malysia ,the grp work was far better than a lot of ribs i have seen . My son and daughter both had 50cc chinese scooters a 125cc motorbike and an offroad bike and the only problems were a faulty spark plug and a broken battery box on the off roader , both easily repaired .I hate to say it but the quality is getting better . The problem lies with unscrupulous importers buying the cheapest and selling as higher priced better quality
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15 March 2013, 11:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
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Avoid anything with Seapro on it.
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15 March 2013, 15:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude 175hp ETEC
MMSI: 235 908 002
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
The "CE" mark always was & always will be a load of meaningless bo110cks.
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You do have to be careful for sure.
The usual CE mark, taken to mean Conformité Européenne, shows the item has undergone a European conformity assessment to EU regulations and the technical file is available. Unfortunately, some Chinese manufacturers put a confusingly similar mark on their goods which, it is claimed, relates to a "China Export" designation.
You may want to look closely at any CE mark on goods to check that it matches the required form, and be suspicious if it does not!
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15 March 2013, 23:14
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
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fkk me is that logo is a sprash?
I guess the refund came with a non disclosure clause?
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16 March 2013, 00:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
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Was it a Seapro then ?
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16 March 2013, 00:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Manchester
Boat name: "mr Jingles"
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 130 Etec
MMSI: 235074968
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
Avoid anything with Seapro on it.
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I'd put my money on it being a seapro
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16 March 2013, 14:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
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