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Old 19 April 2009, 09:19   #1
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Poll cleat

I'm thinking of adding a poll cleat to the deck at the Bow. But can't decided how to fix it to the deck.
Poll cleats are normally bolted down but was wondering if a scew fix would hold?
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Old 19 April 2009, 09:23   #2
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To be clear, also known as a Bollard Cleat.
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To be clear, also known as a Bollard Cleat.
Funny enough i just asked nasher as I spotted he had one on the bow ( the ebay cover thread yesterday) and was like you wanting fix one. He advised that he had bolt thru deck onto a metal plate so as to spread the load. I think that would be my worry with screws.

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Funny enough i just asked nasher as I spotted he had one on the bow ( the ebay cover thread yesterday) and was like you wanting fix one. He advised that he had bolt thru deck onto a metal plate so as to spread the load. I think that would be my worry with screws.

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That's the problem. Can;t get to under the deck on a searider. Unless I can get a wee spanner through the front nostrils?

Think that's another idea for the draw.
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What do you need one for? A painter off your bow eye would do for your mooring.
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That's the problem. Can;t get to under the deck on a searider. Unless I can get a wee spanner through the front nostrils?

Think that's another idea for the draw.
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Sorry only trying to help, sorry to have bothered you
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John on ribs and many other boats) these are commonly referred to as Samson Posts (might be spelt sampson?) and often used for towing - however unless it has been properly fitted at the time of manufacture with the specific purpose of towing in mind (rather than looking pretty and being a nice "cleat") then the loads from towing can rip them out even if bolted to the deck. Otherwise its just a pretty bit of bling, and the leverage on it probably means for use as a cleat - you would be better with a standard cleat.
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What do you need one for? A painter off your bow eye would do for your mooring.
When it dries out the pontoon is higher than the tubes on the bank so the painter is pulling up on the tubes.
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John on ribs and many other boats) these are commonly referred to as Samson Posts (might be spelt sampson?) and often used for towing - however unless it has been properly fitted at the time of manufacture with the specific purpose of towing in mind (rather than looking pretty and being a nice "cleat") then the loads from towing can rip them out even if bolted to the deck. Otherwise its just a pretty bit of bling, and the leverage on it probably means for use as a cleat - you would be better with a standard cleat.
It was more the hight from the deck I was after. Never heard them called Sampson before. Cheers Polwart, back to the drawing board
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Can't you use an angel weight. Have a longer painter put the weight have way down it so it keeps the boat pulled in at high water, when it dries out the ropes not pulling at an angle from the bow but from the weight.
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Can't you use an angel weight. Have a longer painter put the weight have way down it so it keeps the boat pulled in at high water, when it dries out the ropes not pulling at an angle from the bow but from the weight.
Not sure I get you there mate. You'll have to explain it in JSP terms. (I.E. The thick bit of string goes through the shiny loop attched to the orange big bit )

This mooring is on a steep bank. When it dries the pontoon is at an alarming angle to walk across and the RIB is a hell of allot lower. It's cheap like the budgie though. Hoping (when money allows) to move it across the river to a better mooring.
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JSP - I think what he is suggesting is like this:

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Not as good as Polwarts but you get the jeest of it, ie orange thing your boat (not flooding hull hole in bow) black thing weight, grey bit rope and pontoon, blue stuff water and brown stuff mud.
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Thanks lads. Phil, stick to the day job mate Your drawing isn't far off what it's like except it's a little flatter. Would have to do the same with one of the U bolts on the transom. Any suggestions what to use as weights?
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Thanks lads. Phil, stick to the day job mate Your drawing isn't far off what it's like except it's a little flatter. Would have to do the same with one of the U bolts on the transom. Any suggestions what to use as weights?
I did auto cad at college, well I changed the name on someone elses and passed! Anything heavy will do. The only down side is if its heavy then someone might be inclined to nick it. A couple of big flanges should do or bags full of sand or shot blast grit?
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I did auto cad at college, well I changed the name on someone elses and passed! Anything heavy will do. The only down side is if its heavy then someone might be inclined to nick it. A couple of big flanges should do or bags full of sand or shot blast grit?
Will have a look what I've got in my shed tonight. If I used naughty kids would I get down for murder or child labour?
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