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Old 22 October 2008, 16:20   #1
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petrol transfer

my rib has a 200 lt tank which i now fill via jerry cans this is a pain .over a week end i can use 1000lt .i have a 150 lt spare rib tank which i propose installing into my pathfinder.the rib filler is apx 2meters above the ground on the trailer. i cannot get to it in the water . the bottom of the spare tank will be 1/2meter off the ground & 3meters away therefor will not syphon ,& auto pumps will only go to 200lt per hr .any ideas.
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Old 22 October 2008, 16:39   #2
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How about putting the spare 150 L on the roof of the pathfinder ? Start the siphon and walk away for a while ? Should take about 15 mins max to dump into the boat.

Why cant you get to the boat filler when its in the water ?
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Old 22 October 2008, 16:46   #3
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How about putting the spare 150 L on the roof of the pathfinder ? Start the siphon and walk away for a while ? Should take about 15 mins max to dump into the boat.

Why cant you get to the boat filler when its in the water ?
Might be good time to light up a cigarette and relax. Particlarly if you are well insured!
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Old 22 October 2008, 17:09   #4
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12volt Hi capacity pumps

Look at the two red pumps about halfway down this page. Will pump petrol at either 57 or 75 litres per minute and 12 volt too. Seem very well priced for what they are.

http://www.fuelproof.co.uk/pumps/index.htm
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the rib filler is apx 2meters above the ground on the trailer.
I suppose this will be a stupid question... But if the boat is on a trailer, wouldn't it be easier to just haul it to the local gas station?
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Old 22 October 2008, 21:28   #6
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[quote=Blackroady;268757] How about putting the spare 150 L on the roof of the pathfinder quote=268757]

I'm guessing from the Defender's max roof load (75kg), but 150L of gas on the roof plus the stainless tank plus the fixings are way over any safe load limit.
Then there's the "petrol/gas" issue. Which doesn't bear thinking about!
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A Defender with a proper roof rack will take FAR more than 75kgs!!!

Haven't you seen them with twin roof tents? probably talking about 400kgs with people sleeping up there as well. Loads of film companies use them for filming action events with a fiull camera crew up there!!!

The Camel Trophy Defenders used to carry masses of stuff up there including about 10 jerry cans - i wouldn't go too quick around a corner though!!!

The SAS used to use Ranger Rovers with roof platforms to board hijacked aircraft.
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Old 22 October 2008, 22:04   #8
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A Defender with a proper roof rack will take FAR more than 75kgs!!!

Haven't you seen them with twin roof tents? probably talking about 400kgs with people sleeping up there as well. Loads of film companies use them for filming action events with a fiull camera crew up there!!!

The Camel Trophy Defenders used to carry masses of stuff up there including about 10 jerry cans - i wouldn't go too quick around a corner though!!!

The SAS used to use Ranger Rovers with roof platforms to board hijacked aircraft.
Errr? is there a difference between a Defender and a Pathfinder? or are they the same thing?
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Errr? is there a difference between a Defender and a Pathfinder? or are they the same thing?
Sorry I was just quoting on the last comment!!!
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A Defender with a proper roof rack will take FAR more than 75kgs!!!
Right up until there was a 'kin great big accident at which point the insurers would no doubt refer you to the owners manual while washing their hands of all responsibility
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A Defender with a proper roof rack will take FAR more than 75kgs!!!
Land Rover give max loading as 75kg. I have seen people do all sorts of silly things, it wouldn't cause me to recommend others to copy them. I have used a 9' steel frame r-rack on the Defender to carry two spare wheels, steel bridging ladders, 40L (non-explosive) fuel etc, long distances off-road (really off road ) and it has a serious effect on handling. I don't recommend trying it at home with 150L of petrol in a roof tank on a Pathfinder. High COG, high risk and on a partial fill, a shifting load with a big pendulum effect. It's just plain nasty and I'd hate to meet it hurrying through a roundabout.
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I agree - i wouldn't like to carry fuel up there either but it is pretty amazing what people get away with. Of course it really depends on what you are carrying downstairs of course.



Look at this video - they seem to defy gravity!!!

Talking of which - the routemaster double decker bus. How the hell they can cope with 50 rowdy kids upstairs and nobody downstairs is beyond me. Our school bus always felt like it would tip over but never did..........
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