Oops

gingercoastie · 26 August 2005, 13:38

Another boat not coming to the Southwest ribsters gathering

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/4188092.stm

By punctured they mean that there was a problem with the hull.

roycruse · 26 August 2005, 14:16

Was it the "big yellow rib" company that do the rib rides down there.

Not many other ribs around that can carry 12 passengers and 2 crew.

gingercoastie · 26 August 2005, 14:59

It may be, I am not at liberty to say

Kernow Buoy · 26 August 2005, 15:59

Suggestion that there was a collision that holed the boat, and that a plank of wood was seen nearby, must have been some plank!

codprawn · 26 August 2005, 17:21

Derek Hall, from St Ives Lifeboat, said: "It's not actually deflated but the hull, I believe, is damaged underneath. You can see daylight through the hole, it looks like it's fairly badly damaged.

Really liked the following quote!!!

"The boat itself is very unlikely to sink - they're very safe things."

"Most of the people were picked up very quickly by a local fishing boat and one or two of them were taken ashore on the rescue jet ski the lifeboat use from Porthmeor Beach and the rest of them were picked up from the sea by the lifeboat.

See jetskis aren't so bad after all........

codprawn · 26 August 2005, 17:59

Probably hit a submerged treetrunk or similar - it is scary just how much stuff gets washed down rivers and into the sea in a good blow - worth taking extra care after a storm near river mouths.......

Kernow Buoy · 26 August 2005, 18:15

Pictures & Story

gingercoastie · 26 August 2005, 19:17

Looking at the pictures it looks more like a defect in the laying up of the grp than a collision.

stan_deezy · 26 August 2005, 19:23

concur with ginger on this one: defect in hull

Jizm · 26 August 2005, 19:49

that sure is some hull damage!

roycruse · 26 August 2005, 20:07

I spoke to these guys when i was in st ives a few weeks ago - i asked them what make the RIB was and he just said it was made in ireland - i never got the actual company name.

I agree about the damage - theres no way properly laid up fibre glass should be able to tear in such a neat straight line...

Falcon · 26 August 2005, 21:14

14 people, a tank of fuel, 2 engines with a tube of air around it that doesn't like going under the water, probably stuffed into a large lump of Cornish swell I suspect. Ribs seem to have developed a name for being bullet proof. They are not and should be driven very carefully. I have seen the boat in action and i am afraid the helm has learn't the hard way i am just glad nobody was hurt. I am not so sure if the commercial business of carrying passengers won't get away so lightly. It is fantastic to be able to offer the average landlubber the experiance that all us ribsters love so much. But this accident must serve a perpose to remind the builders to build em strong and the helms to drive em carefully, they are not indistructable.

roycruse · 26 August 2005, 21:24

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Originally Posted by Falcon

probably stuffed into a large lump of Cornish swell

I think thats probably an accurate guess as to what happend - it would explain the lack of apparent impact point on the hull and also the broken arm suffered by one of the passengers.

That hull must have just ripped open as it was pulled by the tube trying to go upwards and backwards.

I hope the laminaters at Ribcraft are paying attention when they build my hull

Falcon · 26 August 2005, 21:30

rib crafts have a proven track record and just don't stuff it to find out.

Richard B · 27 August 2005, 01:24

I reckon it was a chainsaw wielding dolphin that did it!

codprawn · 27 August 2005, 02:28

Looks more like "JAWS" to me!!!!

Kernow Buoy · 27 August 2005, 13:42

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F74608/

Here's a replacement boat for them, also licensed for 12

hard1 · 27 August 2005, 15:30

The very best RIb for smashing into large waves with a full load on has to be Ocean Dynamics. If I was chartering a RIB in this manner and wave jumping etc, I'd consider no other. Not pretty but it'll get you there and back OK.

codprawn · 27 August 2005, 15:35

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Originally Posted by hard1

The very best RIb for smashing into large waves with a full load on has to be Ocean Dynamics. If I was chartering a RIB in this manner and wave jumping etc, I'd consider no other. Not pretty but it'll get you there and back OK.

Couldn't agree more - oh for a spare £100,000........

When you see the years of abuse they stood up to when they were doing their whitewater rides it makes you really what is really needed!!!

hard1 · 27 August 2005, 15:54

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Couldn't agree more - oh for a spare £100,000........

When you see the years of abuse they stood up to when they were doing their whitewater rides it makes you really what is really needed!!!

Actually, their 8.5 metre jet drive starts at around £40K. Given the publicity this incident has generated both locally and in the trade, what do you reckon this has cost in real terms and what is the likely end cost implication? Fine, if no insurers or MCA rule makers ever read their papers, but not so fine if the enquiry finds that the boat (as I suspect) just wasn't up to it, and wasn't even designed and built for this type of use.

I am already looking over my shoulder and it has made me think about RIB limitations for sure, not that I ever get involved with voluntary wave jumping (if that indeed was the cause) when fully loaded. The forces involved on a large hull are enormous.